are airsoft guns water proof

[lemegacool]

Originally Posted by SNK

Don't - trying it with a live battery inside your gun is very stupid can cause you injury through electrocution or if it is a lipo, it can explode in your hands.

Mechanicals will be alright. Electrical could be very dangerous. Again, if you want to do this, use a gas powered gun.

it would take way more than a airsoft gun battery to cause electrocution... i begin to feel electirity at approx 70-80 volts...

[Ashton]

Though voltage plays a part on damage done by electrical current, it's really all about amps. Minimum for perception according to Wikipedia (because we all know how reliable it is) is 1 mA. Lethal range is 100 mA and upward.

[SHÖCK]

I've been shocked by my own 9.6v minis when they shorted and it hurt like a bugger and went through my whole body!

I don't want to know what an 11.1v Lipo with a 25C discharge rate feels like.

[AngelusNex]

Originally Posted by Ashton

Though voltage plays a part on damage done by electrical current, it's really all about amps. Minimum for perception according to Wikipedia (because we all know how reliable it is) is 1 mA. Lethal range is 100 mA and upward.

Not sure about your numbers but you are correct. I'd imagine you could stop somebodies heart using an airsoft battery if you set it up in a manner that the current passed through the heart. THOUGH the likelyhood of anything more than a slight tingly feeling if in the water with a battery is minimal at best.


Main reason to not submerge the battery is that doing so will make the battery very useless very fast.






EDIT: just remembered an important quote I read when learning about batteries (from AAA to car batteries) "Voltage hurts but Amperage kills"

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by SNK

Don't - trying it with a live battery inside your gun is very stupid can cause you injury through electrocution or if it is a lipo, it can explode in your hands.

DC current doesn't travel well through water. A regular battery will run for a while submerged, but will eventually die. I don't know what a LiPo would do though. I wouldn't try it.

[G36Maniac]

Originally Posted by SNK

I've been shocked by my own 9.6v minis when they shorted and it hurt like a bugger and went through my whole body!

I don't want to know what an 11.1v Lipo with a 25C discharge rate feels like.

For lipos in water I dont know, but standart batteries in water is not a problem when it come to electrocution (the battery might still be f@#ed up after this). Why you got electrocuted is because it was a short, usually mean contact of two wires and very little resistence so it give higher amperage. In water it can make contact but water not being as good conductor as copper is, the low voltage of the battery and with the electricity being lazy about achieving its goal of going to the ground, it should not be a big problem about electocution. Still, any 120 volt AC device in water is extremly dangerous

[Ashton]

Originally Posted by Sepulcrum

Not sure about your numbers but you are correct. I'd imagine you could stop somebodies heart using an airsoft battery if you set it up in a manner that the current passed through the heart. THOUGH the likelyhood of anything more than a slight tingly feeling if in the water with a battery is minimal at best.


Main reason to not submerge the battery is that doing so will make the battery very useless very fast.

The numbers seem off to me, but I ripped them straight from Wikipedia, thus my little aside there about how reliable they are. Suffice it be said, the likelihood of any AEG battery killing you is extremely low. Just thought I would make mention that voltage really doesn't play into the pain/lethality of electrocution unless you're getting to levels where it can cause severe burns.

As everyone's said, though, I wouldn't try putting your battery in water. I wouldn't try putting any battery in water.

[mcguyver]

Originally Posted by SNK

I've been shocked by my own 9.6v minis when they shorted and it hurt like a bugger and went through my whole body!

No you weren't shocked by a 9.6v battery, and no it didn't run through your whole body. I know this because I'm an electrician, I deal with lethal voltages day in and day out.

DC is not likely to kill you unless the voltages are about 10x what any airsoft battery can generate and about 100x the current. AC on the other hand is a different matter. Humans are most susceptable to frequnecies around 400Hz, DC has no frequency, it is 0Hz.

I can prove it.

Stick 1 finger on each hand onto the probes of a multimeter and set for resistance. You will get something on the order of high kilo-ohms to low megaohms. Factor in the classic formula of Voltage = Current x Resistance, and you will see how much current is going to flow

The only possible way you could get an airsoft battery to kill you is by sending your heart into defib by discharging directly in the Vagus nerve or the Perkinge fibres on the heart. The only way this is going to happen is if you are attacked by an airsoft ninja during open heart surgery or have your chest ripped open during an airsoft game.

Neither is very likely to happen.

[SHÖCK]

I never said anything about airsoft batteries killing you - just injuring or hurting you. Airsoft batteries are relatively benign but maybe a lipo can do it (check out youtube for videos of lipos exploding after R/C accidents or getting wet). You guys are right, DC current wouldn't travel through water well but I was thinking of a short (even though you are relatively insulated anyway through plastic grip).

[Crunchmeister]

It's 100% impossible to get injured or even shocked directly by an airspoft battery. A LiPo will possibly cause injury due to it exploding and burning, but that's about it. It can't shock either.

[canadian guy]

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister

No reason you can't do this with any other airsoft gun except a PTW. You'd kill a battery pretty fast leaving it underwater, but there's no reason you can't do this with anything from a Kraken to a VFC.

But after submerging it like that, I'd be taking it apart to dry out the water and relubricate to prevent steel parts from rusting.

I dont know about killing the battery.

I had a 3000mAh pack in an RC truck and I fully submerged it in water and it still drove fine and recharged normally every time afterwards.. Maybe I just got lucky but im not the only rc guy who has done that before..

[Martin3267]

It works, but mostly only with AEG'S ... Lol once i tried it with my PISTOL
Did not work :P

[Shirley]

Why would you even try it...
Playing in rain is fine. But it's totally different than shoving it in a tub.

We live in Canada, where Airsoft guns are double and triple the price in Asia, U.S..
Would you really want to treat your gun like that?

[Reckless]

comming from RC boats I have a few things I have to say about things being said... Stick batteries could care less about being live and submerged in FRESH water.. same with elec motors .. hell most of us break in new elec motors by submerging them hooked up to a batt pack and leaving them overnight.

now salt water is a whole different animal.

as a comparison.. I have an RC submarine that is just over 3 years old.. the elec motor, stick battery and 2 servo's are OUTSIDE the sealed inner chamber ... when this sub is in the water, the motor, servo's and battery are submerged in water the entire time. when I first started running it I was really anal about spraying out the motor, servos and checking the battery pack. for the last 2 years I've been waiting to see when these parts would die.. so all I do is leave the hull open to dry after a day at the lake , and make sure the batt pack is dry before charging.

your mech boxes.. there should be enough grease in them to prevent rust... and if the mech box is sealed enough to keep the water in... how did it get in? (aka it should run out)

the only thing I honestly could see causeing damage would be water getting behind a BB and hydrolocking as the BB tries to fire putting possibly too much strain on the spring and gears.