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Old November 6th, 2008, 01:55   #16
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Easily said:

companies like ICS, CA, JG, etc are all built off the TM base (TM being the oldest manufacturer of the modern AEG). They all offer some differences (some have metal bodies, others are cheaper), but they all are basically the same: they are airsoft guns.

A PTW on the other hand, is not exactly an "airsoft gun" and rather more of a simulation device. PTWs are built with the highest quality, strong, and to exact dimentions. PTWs are known to accept parts like upper recievers from real m4 models.

So, in short, an ICS is not a Systema, besides the obvious manufacturer difference, is that ICS is an airsoft gun manufacturer, and Systema is a simulation weapons manufacturer. I know they do the same thing in the end, but there is a huge difference.
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Old November 6th, 2008, 02:19   #17
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And the cylinder and the gears are totally separate in Systema AEGs, now granted some ICS's are also split gearbox, 99.9% of aegs aren't.
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http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...oducts_id=2105
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other aeg (see attached pic)
Systemas are also optically and computerly controlled, unlike other aegs were it's mostly mechanical. Also they can easily go past 500fps, and actually stop firing when out.
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Old November 6th, 2008, 02:44   #18
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Systemas are not optically controlled, whatever that means.
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Old November 6th, 2008, 03:29   #19
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PTWs are built with the highest quality, strong
Aye, I beg to differ.

Yes PTW's are built to an extremely high quality and tolerance level... But they still cast their bodies rather than CNCing them.. Everything should be all nice and CNC'd
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Old November 6th, 2008, 21:51   #20
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Aye, I beg to differ.

Yes PTW's are built to an extremely high quality and tolerance level... But they still cast their bodies rather than CNCing them.. Everything should be all nice and CNC'd
really? thats actually a surprise, I totally agree CNC is the way to go. Im actually a little disappointed now.
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Systemas are not optically controlled, whatever that means.
Not to start an argument, but you sure about that? This is the only systema article i can think of off the top of my head, but still:
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...oducts_id=2105
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Advanced optical sensors accurately and reliably monitor/control its internal firing routine with extraordinary precision.
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Old November 7th, 2008, 02:39   #22
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Not to start an argument, but you sure about that? This is the only systema article i can think of off the top of my head, but still:
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...oducts_id=2105
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Ah, I thought you may have been talking about the mag/empty function.
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Old November 7th, 2008, 02:49   #23
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Systemas are not optically controlled, whatever that means.
They are.

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really? thats actually a surprise, I totally agree CNC is the way to go. Im actually a little disappointed now.
Prime makes awesome CNC bodies for PTW's. Theirs also another PGC.
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Ah, I thought you may have been talking about the mag/empty function.
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