My Vietnam Rifleman and Gunner loadouts

beastor · March 8th, 2008, 08:05

Not sure what you mean Sepulcrum, the Flak jacket is authentic late 60's early 70's model!

It is indeed a work out Scheer, I usually swap over to the M16 mid day as the belts of ammo, the 60 itself and the Flak jacket usually take their toll quickly! (helps fight the flab though)

AngelusNex · March 8th, 2008, 08:35

Oh sorry, I didn't magnify the gunner pics... you should wear it with your rifleman kit too

scheer · March 8th, 2008, 13:03

Still the pigs that wee bit more impressive than the M16, especially when it's pointed at you (as I can personally testify) See you 2moro Beastie & you'll get to see my COD4 gear

Jiggiwatt · March 8th, 2008, 13:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tankdude

Forward assist might be wrong for such an early model.

The forward assist was added during before production was ordered on request of the Army. The Air Force ordered it initially without the forward assist, in it's original design.

Sergeantmajor · March 8th, 2008, 13:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by scheer

Still the pigs that wee bit more impressive than the M16, especially when it's pointed at you (as I can personally testify) See you 2moro Beastie & you'll get to see my COD4 gear

hey, could you show off some kit on here? some of us wont be there...

Deftonius · March 8th, 2008, 15:06

The M16 had no forward assist, and the three-prong flash hider. The M16A1 had the "birdcage" flash hider and a forward assist.

Personally I don't have a problem with how the CA VN looks, just swap the flash hider if you're that picky and it's all good.

Other than that, they had the same receiver. That changed when the M16A2 came out, along with many other changes.

CanadianGrunt · March 15th, 2008, 20:58

Nice loadout there man. Now all you gotta do is get some pics in the Boonies

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commandojim · March 15th, 2008, 21:18

Only the Airforce and very early M16s did not have the
forward assist . The birdcages were changed out after
the REMFs listened to the grunts (which rarely ever happened).
My first Matty Mattel I was issued had a forward assist and
a three prong tulip flashhider.I even saw a few really early
experimental four prong flash hiders(not in service though)
along with displayed ARs with burst barrels.

Nice load out though takes me back to my youth.

Medic · March 15th, 2008, 22:24

Very nice, the go-to-hell rag is a nice touch

beastor · March 19th, 2008, 14:03

Cheers for the generous feedback guys, its good fun to play in and suprisingly comfortable. You sweat buckets with the ammo bandoliers and flak jacket on though, and the TOP M60 doesnt help, but the "ooooh" factor from noobs and even the more seasoned players more than makes up for it.

Also helps that the CA "M15 Vietnam" is a really solid gun (no wobble at all and I have fallen on it twice) and excellent to shoot, although the TOP M60 with the 1200 round hopper is so much fun its silly!

beastor · March 19th, 2008, 14:05

The helmet also makes a very satisfying metallic "ping" sound when BB's strike it!

MrEvolution · March 19th, 2008, 15:24

Ive had that happen to me at a WW2 game recently. 450fps sniper somewhere picked me right in the helmet with the same PING! sound. My ears rang for a bit after that.

FC4L · May 25th, 2010, 05:28

Nice work. Where did you get all the gear? Going for any specific look or just liked the 25th Infantry patch?

forcerecon85 · May 26th, 2010, 01:42

Nice stuff. Generally in the boonies your jacket was static, nothing on it other than your unit patch as laundry logistic rarely returned the right uniform or at least the right size and rank. For re-enacting though, it's fun having your name, branch, rank and unit on it. Around 1967-68 the transition from colour to OD was going on, so it's accurate with colour 25th Inf patch but OD rank.

Depending on AO generally flak jackets were left behind as humping 80lbs rucksacks, 15lbs of web gear and all the other weight it produced heat causalities. M16 = 3 prong "flower/tulip" flash. M16A1 has the birdcage flash and the forward assist. I think Classic Army just copied the TM version.

M60 gunners pretty much have the same web gear as riflemen but would store other items in the ammo pouches. Is the canteen cover an M1967 with 4 vertical stitches or like the modern with 2 horizontal stitches? You should also have a 1st aid pouch somewhere too. M60 gunners carried an M1911 .45 cal pistol as a backup just in case. As for facial hair either be clean cut, 2 day growth or a moustache.

I've picked it apart to be helpful, don't think that it's bad, the important thing is you're trying and you're learning

FC4L · May 26th, 2010, 03:17

/\ Wow that's a pretty good eye for detail. I was curious about the name and branch after studying Platoon almost frame-by-frame trying to see if they are there during any scenes beyond the arrival. Your info explains a lot.

For any others looking for lots of good info on Vietnam era gear check these sites out. Been a world of help for me so far.

http://www.vietnamgear.com/
http://david.brubakers.us/Vietnam/in...l#UNIFORMSHIRT

Now I need weapon info

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March 8th, 2008, 08:05	#16
beastor Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Scotland, UK	Not sure what you mean Sepulcrum, the Flak jacket is authentic late 60's early 70's model! It is indeed a work out Scheer, I usually swap over to the M16 mid day as the belts of ammo, the 60 itself and the Flak jacket usually take their toll quickly! (helps fight the flab though) __________________ "There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell." General William Tecumseh Sherman

March 15th, 2008, 20:58	#22
CanadianGrunt Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008	Nice loadout there man. Now all you gotta do is get some pics in the Boonies . __________________ History Is What's Happening

March 15th, 2008, 21:18	#23
commandojim Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Regina,Saskatchewan	Only the Airforce and very early M16s did not have the forward assist . The birdcages were changed out after the REMFs listened to the grunts (which rarely ever happened). My first Matty Mattel I was issued had a forward assist and a three prong tulip flashhider.I even saw a few really early experimental four prong flash hiders(not in service though) along with displayed ARs with burst barrels. Nice load out though takes me back to my youth. Last edited by commandojim; March 15th, 2008 at 21:28..

March 8th, 2008, 08:35	#17
AngelusNex formerly Sepulcrum Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kingston,ON, aka Funkasia	Oh sorry, I didn't magnify the gunner pics... you should wear it with your rifleman kit too

March 8th, 2008, 13:03	#18
scheer Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Scotland, UK	Still the pigs that wee bit more impressive than the M16, especially when it's pointed at you (as I can personally testify) See you 2moro Beastie & you'll get to see my COD4 gear

March 8th, 2008, 15:06	#21
Deftonius Troll Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa	The M16 had no forward assist, and the three-prong flash hider. The M16A1 had the "birdcage" flash hider and a forward assist. Personally I don't have a problem with how the CA VN looks, just swap the flash hider if you're that picky and it's all good. Other than that, they had the same receiver. That changed when the M16A2 came out, along with many other changes.

March 15th, 2008, 22:24	#24
Medic Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Fergus, ON	Very nice, the go-to-hell rag is a nice touch __________________ 42 Doc Scraping stupid out of ditches since 1995

March 19th, 2008, 14:03	#25
beastor Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Scotland, UK	Cheers for the generous feedback guys, its good fun to play in and suprisingly comfortable. You sweat buckets with the ammo bandoliers and flak jacket on though, and the TOP M60 doesnt help, but the "ooooh" factor from noobs and even the more seasoned players more than makes up for it. Also helps that the CA "M15 Vietnam" is a really solid gun (no wobble at all and I have fallen on it twice) and excellent to shoot, although the TOP M60 with the 1200 round hopper is so much fun its silly! __________________ "There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell." General William Tecumseh Sherman

March 19th, 2008, 14:05	#26
beastor Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Scotland, UK	The helmet also makes a very satisfying metallic "ping" sound when BB's strike it! __________________ "There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell." General William Tecumseh Sherman

May 25th, 2010, 05:28	#28
FC4L Trader rating Join Date: May 2010 Location: Calgary	Nice work. Where did you get all the gear? Going for any specific look or just liked the 25th Infantry patch?

May 26th, 2010, 01:42	#29
forcerecon85 Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Windsor, Ont	Nice stuff. Generally in the boonies your jacket was static, nothing on it other than your unit patch as laundry logistic rarely returned the right uniform or at least the right size and rank. For re-enacting though, it's fun having your name, branch, rank and unit on it. Around 1967-68 the transition from colour to OD was going on, so it's accurate with colour 25th Inf patch but OD rank. Depending on AO generally flak jackets were left behind as humping 80lbs rucksacks, 15lbs of web gear and all the other weight it produced heat causalities. M16 = 3 prong "flower/tulip" flash. M16A1 has the birdcage flash and the forward assist. I think Classic Army just copied the TM version. M60 gunners pretty much have the same web gear as riflemen but would store other items in the ammo pouches. Is the canteen cover an M1967 with 4 vertical stitches or like the modern with 2 horizontal stitches? You should also have a 1st aid pouch somewhere too. M60 gunners carried an M1911 .45 cal pistol as a backup just in case. As for facial hair either be clean cut, 2 day growth or a moustache. I've picked it apart to be helpful, don't think that it's bad, the important thing is you're trying and you're learning __________________ Staff Sgt. James Forbes, 1st Platoon, Bravo Company, 2d Battalion, 503d Infantry Regiment (The Rock), 173d Airborne Brigade (Separate)

May 26th, 2010, 03:17	#30
FC4L Trader rating Join Date: May 2010 Location: Calgary	/\ Wow that's a pretty good eye for detail. I was curious about the name and branch after studying Platoon almost frame-by-frame trying to see if they are there during any scenes beyond the arrival. Your info explains a lot. For any others looking for lots of good info on Vietnam era gear check these sites out. Been a world of help for me so far. http://www.vietnamgear.com/ http://david.brubakers.us/Vietnam/in...l#UNIFORMSHIRT Now I need weapon info