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Old July 15th, 2007, 20:24   #16
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Old July 15th, 2007, 21:12   #17
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Old July 15th, 2007, 23:19   #18
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how much does it cost to totally upgrade the aep to its max? and will it be easy to install the parts or do i have to bring it to a pro?

how much does it cost to fully upgrade a gbb? and same will i be able to install the parts myself?

which is easier to repair if it breaks?

i searched around the forum and i found out that ppl use dischargers to remove all the electricity from the batteries, is it alright for me to leave like 70% of the electricity inside the battery and use it again after lets say a few months, will it damage the battery? since i do this for my camera

for gas do you have to empty out all the gas before putting it away? i'm guessing yes since some guns use propane and its danagerous.

what if i wanted to take only a few shots is it alright for me to put in a little gas and take the few shots or do i have to completely fill her up to use?

since ksc is a japanese company are all their guns made in japan like tokyo marui?
(edit: googled it and found out that the glock 18c gbb is made in taiwan, please verify)

btw my budget is around $2g so i want the best so i dont regret it.

thanks guys keep on replying please!

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Old July 15th, 2007, 23:28   #19
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it will cost you around a hundred just on the parts, if you mean upgrading it internally TO THE MAX. installing should be a bit tricky.

i personally prefer GBBs as they are more fun and realistic.

batteries nowadays claim to have "no memory" so you can charge it even when its 90% or 20% full. but to keep your batt running in top shape, dischargers are reccomended.

for long storages, don't keep gas in your mag, keep only a tiniest squirt of gas so your seals stay fresh.

yes its alright to put gas in your gun and shoot. any amount is fine, it won't do damage.

KSC guns are made in both Taiwan and Japan.
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Old July 15th, 2007, 23:38   #20
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how much does it cost to totally upgrade the aep to its max? and will it be easy to install the parts or do i have to bring it to a pro?
The first question is pretty vague, so here is your vague answer:
$10 to $1000.

Define "max." Max velocity? Max consistency? Max ROF? Max durability? Max battery life? Max accessories (optics, slings, suppressors, extended inner barrels, tightbores, extra magazines, longer magazines, holsters, different iron sights, tracer units, etc etc etc? )

And if you've never upgraded a gun before, I highly don't recommend trying it on your MP7 as your first gun. It's not that upgrade-friendly, and you may be disappointed at the results.

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how much does it cost to fully upgrade a gbb? and same will i be able to install the parts myself?
That's an even MORE vague question, so here is an even more vague answer:

$0.01 to $10,000.

Define "fully". Even with that, aftermarket part selection can range widely, depending on the gun platform you choose. Some guns have almost no upgrades available. Others have almost every single part of the gun available in upgrade parts. And then there's some guns like WA 1911s, that have premium parts that can run you well in to the cost of a small car.

Can you install the parts yourself? That depends on your mechanical dexterity, how good you are with working with your hands and your innate understanding of mechanics & pneumatics. It also depends largely on what it is you're upgrading. To put it in to perspective: MOST AEG doctors are not willing to deal with GBBs, because they're a very different beast.

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which is easier to repair if it breaks?
That depends. What's broken?

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i searched around the forum and i found out that ppl use dischargers to remove all the electricity from the batteries, is it alright for me to leave like 70% of the electricity inside the battery and use it again after lets say a few months, will it damage the battery? since i do this for my camera
That's exactly what I do with my batteries. Does it harm it? I don't know. I don't even care. I just do the discharge before I charge it. But so far, all my batteries still hold full charge, even though some of them are 5 years old now. I'm not saying it DOESN'T cause damage - I'm just saying that I haven't seemed to notice any noticeable damage on my batteries.

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for gas do you have to empty out all the gas before putting it away? i'm guessing yes since some guns use propane and its danagerous.
I don't empty it. Is it harmful for the magazines? I don't know, but again, I haven't noticed any damage to my magazine valves, despite storing this way for a couple of years.

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what if i wanted to take only a few shots is it alright for me to put in a little gas and take the few shots or do i have to completely fill her up to use?
You don't have to do a complete fill.

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since ksc is a japanese company are all their guns made in japan like tokyo marui?
KSC is a Japanese company, but most of their manufacturing is done in Taiwan. However, the Japanese versions of their products go through more stringent QC processes when sold to Japanese market.






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batteries nowadays claim to have "no memory" so you can charge it even when its 90% or 20% full. but to keep your batt running in top shape, dischargers are reccomended.
This is only true with Nickel-Metal Hydride (Ni-MH) cells, which do not require discharges between charges.

Nickel-Cadmium cells still require discharging and can suffer from memory.

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Old July 16th, 2007, 00:22   #21
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i just mean as in rof, and velocity.thank you illusion that gave a whole lot of info, i'm probably going to order one this week so yeah. i'm probably going to buy the aep since for gbb you have to deal with lubing it and seals and etc. i'm not a very detail oriented guy so i dont want to go through trouble aka lazy. =)

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edit: which type of battery does the TM glock 18c aep use?

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Old July 16th, 2007, 00:24   #22
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Look in to metal bearings, power spring, polycarbonate piston, softer piston & cylinder heads, spring guides and external battery attachments.

I have some of those items for sale. If you're interested in picking some stuff up, PM me. I can also order things in for you if I don't have it on hand.
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Old July 16th, 2007, 13:44   #23
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lets say i buy a ksc glock 18c gbb, what will i need to start firing bb's from it?

since for the tm glock 18c aep all i need to do is charge the battery and start firing, right?

how much will it cost to fully upgrade the internals of the glock 18c gbb to its max rof and velocity? and probably get the metal slide and barrel?

will i be able to do the upgrade myself?

which has a more complex internal? the glock 18c aep or glock 18c gbb? which one will i most likely have trouble with?

if i buy a can of gas do i have to buy propane adaptor? or does the can already have one of those heads so all i have to do is stick it into the magazine?
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Old July 16th, 2007, 13:59   #24
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I really think it's time for you to use the Search button, read the FAQs and peruse (that means read intently, not skim over) the other Forums. All of your questions have been answered many times before. As I always say, there's a mine of information here.
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Old July 16th, 2007, 14:06   #25
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ok sorry

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Old July 16th, 2007, 14:30   #26
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Here's a link to some fantastic information.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...ol+review+list
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Old July 16th, 2007, 16:44   #27
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thanks scooby steve i actually went to that page but i found nothing about aeps two of the four aep pages dont load. but after reading all the ksc glock 18c gbb reviews and also on how to care for your gbb i have decided to start off with an aep since i'm probably going to be outside during the winter an aep will be good.

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Old July 16th, 2007, 17:19   #28
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Keep in mind that your batteries won't last long in deep freeze winter weather, unless you modify the gun to use a sub-C 2400mAh ni-cad pack.
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Old July 16th, 2007, 19:23   #29
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lol dude don't worry about letting gas in a gbb....

I mean no you don't leave gas in it but it's so easy to get it off since it takes like 1-3 magazine to make it empty...

Most of the gbb can shoot 1 to 3 magazine before the gas is done...

So it's not that hard...when your finished you shoot your last magazine and there we go....
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Old July 17th, 2007, 14:19   #30
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so when i went on A&A found the upgrades for the guns.

TM glock 18c AEP
nine ball: $59.95
gun itself $279.95
100 round hi-cap: $59.95
total: $399.85

Ksc glock 18c gbb
gun itself: $349.95
metal slide and barrel: $99.95
ultra light silicone oil: $5.95
hurricane valve set: $49.95
total: $505.80

can the gbb reach up to 400 fps with all these upgrades? i was thinking since the battery takes 1 hour to charge for the AEP but for the gbb i only need to gas it for 6 seconds to give it a full container right?

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