V3 with heaviest upgrade : jams.

[Jimski]

Hello Vondnik , thx.

the new battery arrived and it works really well.
thanks all for the clues.
it's Evil :-)))

Originally Posted by ILLusion

Can you clarify what a "30A" battery is? Do you mean 3000mAh? That's only 3 Amps. Not 30.

that's the discharge rate...so this one is a 4200 mAh battery with a 35 Amps discharge rate.

Originally Posted by Droc

you dont need to goto such extremes all the time....

that's only for fun, this AEG will not go on the field with this spring.
(mmm...maybe for CQB someday though ahahah )

cheerz!

Jimski

[ringsted]

Originally Posted by vondnik

many things could be wrong. Half dead motor, wrong gear ratio, incorrect shiming, missaligned piston or spring guide or other problems. Having a complete list of parts will be needed to have a better understanding of your problem. The gen3 can sometines "fall betwine" and jan up on semi. Did you try a NICD battery as ther often work better than the NINH crap.

Sorry but you dont know anything about Airsoft batteries if you think NiCd are better than Nice quality Nimh, the NiCd are crap compared, the kind of battery like intellect 4200 mah Sub C can deliver 80 A continously and 200 A burst.
the smalle ones like IB1400 deliver 25 A continously, and put them in parallel they kick arse.

you do realize your telling one of the most knowledgeable airsofters on the planet that he doesn't know anything about batteries.

[Jimski]

Although being a tad aggressive, Ringsted is right about the Nicad batteries: the discharge flow is stronger and more stable on (well maintained) Nimh batteries.

I'd be happy to wrestle in oil anyone who disagrees with that

mmmh, say Blueberry jam instead of oil.

Jimski

[ringsted]

Originally Posted by Droc

you do realize your telling one of the most knowledgeable airsofters on the planet that he doesn't know anything about batteries.

no i dont realize that, and i dont quite care either. Iin industrial applications it may well be that NiCd batteries are superior but in airsoft NiMh are the best.
why do the RC people use NiMh if NiCd are better?????

NiMh are better now, but just af few years ago NiCd where better.

[Jimski]

oil or blueberry jam?

[vondnik]

Originally Posted by ringsted

no i dont realize that, and i dont quite care either. Iin industrial applications it may well be that NiCd batteries are superior but in airsoft NiMh are the best.
why do the RC people use NiMh if NiCd are better?????

NiMh are better now, but just af few years ago NiCd where better.

RC people use MIMH because their power needs are constant and that is somewhere MIMH batteries excel. Unfortunatly that is not the case with airsoft. MIMH do provide a more constant voltage and a more steady flow. BUT when your power demand is constantly cycling betwine on and off, from nothing to maximum power load your MIMH will burn out mutch faster. Also they don't handle the cold that well, but then again most batteries don't.

I never had satisfactory results with any MIMH batteries i tried so all my guns run on NICD, you can ask around what people think about my guns. I always had longer life, better rof or torque power out of a NICD. My comment comes from experience witch include airsoft, RC cars and planes and industrial use.

In the end I don't give a rats ass what you use but for the price of 1 MIMH i get3 NICD that in the end give me better results....you do the math

[Jimski]

Originally Posted by vondnik

RC people use MIMH because their power needs are constant and that is somewhere MIMH batteries excel. Unfortunatly that is not the case with airsoft. MIMH do provide a more constant voltage and a more steady flow. BUT when your power demand is constantly cycling betwine on and off, from nothing to maximum power load your MIMH will burn out mutch faster. Also they don't handle the cold that well, but then again most batteries don't.

good to know, thanks to you Vondnik.

[CDN_Stalker]

Originally Posted by Jimski

Although being a tad aggressive, Ringsted is right about the Nicad batteries: the discharge flow is stronger and more stable on (well maintained) Nimh batteries.

I'd be happy to wrestle in oil anyone who disagrees with that

mmmh, say Blueberry jam instead of oil.

Jimski

You obviously haven't met Vondnik in person yet, have you?

[Greylocks]

They are both from the Montreal area, it will happen.

[flack]

Originally Posted by Jimski

good to know, thanks to you Vondnik.

thx vondnik... didnt know that! I was sure nimh was better...

[Renegade)]

Make sure it gets filmed!

[Jimski]

Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker

You obviously haven't met Vondnik in person yet, have you?

yes I have, why?
just because he's right about batteries doesn't prevent us to wrestle in blueberry jam : ))


Jimski

[CDN_Stalker]

Originally Posted by Jimski

yes I have, why?
just because he's right about batteries doesn't prevent us to wrestle in blueberry jam : ))


Jimski

Ok, just making sure you knew what you were getting into. He has a pretty sick sense of humour at times.

[ringsted]

Originally Posted by vondnik

RC people use MIMH because their power needs are constant and that is somewhere MIMH batteries excel. Unfortunatly that is not the case with airsoft. MIMH do provide a more constant voltage and a more steady flow. BUT when your power demand is constantly cycling betwine on and off, from nothing to maximum power load your MIMH will burn out mutch faster. Also they don't handle the cold that well, but then again most batteries don't.

I never had satisfactory results with any MIMH batteries i tried so all my guns run on NICD, you can ask around what people think about my guns. I always had longer life, better rof or torque power out of a NICD. My comment comes from experience witch include airsoft, RC cars and planes and industrial use.

In the end I don't give a rats ass what you use but for the price of 1 MIMH i get3 NICD that in the end give me better results....you do the math

okay, let us take a small look at the options you have with NiCd and NimH in the diffrent guns.

Mp5, and Mc51 series. NiCd you can have a 10,8 600 mah in the front. with NimH you can have 10,8 1500 mah. same size.

MP5 SD series. NiCd 9,6 1100 mah, 9,6 1200 mah (2 9,6 600 in parallel) or at 12 v 600 mah. with NiMh 9,6 3000 mah ( 2 9,6 1500 in parallel) or a 12 v 1500 mah battery.

The M4 series with battery in the handguard. NiCd you can have 9,6-12v 1700 mah battery, or 9,6 1800 (with 3 9,6 600 mah batteries in trippel). With NiMh you have, 9,6 2000 mah (GP celle) or 9,6 3000 mah or 12v 3000 mah, hell i can even fit a 9,6 4500 in my CA handguard made by 3 9,6 1500 in trippel.

Fixed stock. the best NiCd i know of are the RC 2400 mah cells, SUB C size.
so in an G&P fixed M16 stock you can have 13,2 volt og 2400 mah with your NiCd cells, or you can have a 13,2 4200-4500 mah batteri with either intellect or elite cells.

i could go on with specific setups but it should be clear by now that the energy density of NiMh cells are over 60% as high in some cases over 100% more than NiCd of similar size. now i know all about internal resistance and dischargning behavior, and for all the setups above the Ni Mh are by far the best in these categories.

take a look at www.cheapbatterypacks.com or some nice batteries,