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Old October 22nd, 2014, 21:20   #16
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I agree on the M203 and the acog, they're not on my list for the forseeable future

In regards to gear, I already have a nice pair of rugged boots.
I was planning on playing with jeans and a hoodie for the first couple of weeks, cramming mags in my pockets (not that I have many anyways)
I could probably get a nice vest and pouches for christmas.

However, scouring through amazon, ebay and toronto airsoft, I came up with this:
1-CM18 MOD1 DST (245$)
1-Elite Force 0.28g Bio-bb's 2700ct (25$)
1-Valken Annex MI7 Thermal (40$)
3-DYTAC Invader midcap Mag (36$)
1-SRC M4 Magazine Style Speed Loader, 400-Round (14$)
1-Venom 30C 2S 1200mah 7.4 LiPO (17$)
1-Atomik RC Venom Group Atomik 2-3 Cell AC/DC LiPO Balance Charger (25$)
Which totals 425$ with tax and shipping included. I wanted to know what you guys think on this "shopping list"? lol. The only reason I'm not going with the King Arms M4 is that I don't like the general old-style M4 look. I like a more M416-ish kind of look.
you really should get Aved, Ricochet probably could help you a lot and he is local. (assuming you are Vancouver BC area since you went to gorilla)
Your list looks fine expect I have no idea how that charger will perform..I think a lot of us likes the imax charger so yeah lol..if that one DOES balance charge then their shouldn't be a problem. The problem is when the product lies.

Right, get a barrel condom..fields(at least panther) are really big on that, no mags, and barrel condoms up in safezone.

Be careful playing mags in your pocket. Don't lose them. My friend already lost a pistol, and a pistol mag because he figured he would save 10 bucks on a pistol holster and use duct tape (so proud of his production too until it snapped off in a night game)-_-. Looking for them is almost impossible..

You might want to go to panther and rent a game first to see if you like the paintball mask type of head gear..I hated it, and sold my mask to buy a pair of goggles and lower mesh. (I have trouble breathing in a full mask, mesh fixed that)
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 21:45   #17
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That too went out of stock...so now I'm with this:
1-G&P CM18 MOD1 DST (does it come with a battery?)
3-DYTAC 120rd Invader Mag - M4 AEG (Black)
1-Venom 8.4V 1600mah nunchuck battery
1-Tenergy universal smart charger
1-2000ct BBBastard Bio 0.25g bb's
1-Marui face mask with fan (again, I wear glasses)
Are you sure it is by G&P and not G&G CM18 MOD1 DST. Are you looking to keep this gun? It is practically all plastic...... I know you want this nicely packaged looking gun, but its your money. Buy CA/VFC all metal M1A1 which is basic but fully upgradeable when you are ready.

Venom batteries/chargers are pure junk. I know you are on a budget, but look on the other side of the purchase....investment into gear you can actually keep.

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Old October 22nd, 2014, 22:06   #18
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tl;dr but most of everything that Ricochet says is good advice. Since you're in Marpole, if there's an AV'er around Richmond (Most likely Optix or Kampfer) that might be your best bet but Ricochet is a wealth of knowledge and an hour of chatting with him is worth a lot of research. He is a bit far out in Maple Ridge though but maybe you could ask to meet him half way at a sky train station like lougheed centre or something.

As for the smart charger, I personally use a Turnigy Accucel 6 but it's pretty much the same thing as the iMax B6(AC) I wouldn't be surprised to find out it's the same OEM who makes it. Another solid option is this charger, http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s..._US_Plug_.html It's basic and does it's job, balance charges fine. One thing you can't do with that charger (which you can with the B6 and Accucel) is "jump start" a dead battery if it goes below the min voltage.

The plain Jane King Arms M4 (Metal Body version) is also a very good purchase. The only thing that I can think of that's wrong with it is the cutoff lever wearing out prematurely but other than that a solid gun as long as you don't abuse it.

It's fine and dandy to go out in jeans and a hoodie but I'd say even go to Gorilla and pick up some surplus OG-107 combats. Shouldn't be more than $50 for a tunic and pants in decent condition (I even got the OD bush cap for like $9) but you might have to search through their stuff.

Also, protip, paint the top 1/2" or so of your mags bright pink or neon green in case you lose it and it'll help you find it a bit easier if you know the general area where you lost it. Note safety orange isn't really the best colour for fall. I lost my nice safety orange rescue knife when I was hiking because it was orange just like the leaves around it. Example of what I mean: http://i.imgur.com/qWdepat.jpg and it's hidden in my magwell when it's in the rifle.

BTW that rifle you're referring to in the OP is a G&G (Guay Guay) not G&P (G&P Laser Products). But nonetheless it's still a solid gun, although I'm not really a fan of the plastic body (which I assume it is because it's from the CM or "Combat Machine" line rather than the regular "GR" line with metal body or the "TR" or TopTech line).
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 22:42   #19
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I guess the nice thing about a gun like the King Arms is not just that it's metal and well built, but if you want to go for a certain look, it easily accepts parts to change that. Some of the stiffer polymer receivers are not bad nowadays, but most will always recommend metal if you can. You want to budget and save, but not at the cost of comfort, safety or reliability. But cheap, but twice. That's the airsoft motto. Buying or upgrading can be frusterating because you want to save money, but no one store has all that you really need, or everything for a good price.
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 00:25   #20
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Yeah, I figured that the Venom charger and batteries were pure crap...

Anyways, I've loaded the turnigy nanotech 1400mah lipo and a smart balancing charger that la73ncy linked, which turned out to be cheaper and of better quality!

The reason why I dont want to go full metal, is due to the weigh. I'm by no means a weakling, but I felt that the CM18 had some good weight to it. The polymer was nice and smooth, to the point where I would have never guessed it wasn't metal!

In regards to getting AV'ed, I'm meeting up with optix tomorrow at RIP to get AV'ed. I don't know what kind of sales you guys have going on in the classifieds, but I'm very certain I'll find something to pique my curiousity.

Speaking of curiosity, anyone have an idea of which nanotech lipo I could fit in the crane stock? What's the most mah that I could stuff in the stock? I was thinking an 1800mah nunchuck, but it looks wide...a little too much so.

Anyone with insight is welcome to comment
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 00:34   #21
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Yeah, I figured that the Venom charger and batteries were pure crap...

Anyways, I've loaded the turnigy nanotech 1400mah lipo and a smart balancing charger that la73ncy linked, which turned out to be cheaper and of better quality!

The reason why I dont want to go full metal, is due to the weigh. I'm by no means a weakling, but I felt that the CM18 had some good weight to it. The polymer was nice and smooth, to the point where I would have never guessed it wasn't metal!

In regards to getting AV'ed, I'm meeting up with optix tomorrow at RIP to get AV'ed. I don't know what kind of sales you guys have going on in the classifieds, but I'm very certain I'll find something to pique my curiousity.

Speaking of curiosity, anyone have an idea of which nanotech lipo I could fit in the crane stock? What's the most mah that I could stuff in the stock? I was thinking an 1800mah nunchuck, but it looks wide...a little too much so.

Anyone with insight is welcome to comment
The receiver is not heavy. Its the gearbox inside of it that weighs the most. Keymod rails are aluminum and lighter than the plastic rail on the G&G.

Betcha that plastic gun flexes.

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Old October 23rd, 2014, 01:32   #22
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1200 mah is what you want, and will fit mostly anywhere. Get at least two of them. The 1300, 1400 are too long for most stocks, tubes and grips, and the 2400, etc are too wide. A standard crane stock can usually carry two 1200, one in either side. Ensure you get the right voltage for your gun, it'll either be 7.4v or 11.1v depending on the guns motor and spring strength. Too much and you can strip things, too little an it may not cycle. Someone could easily tell you which I'm sure, even ask the retailer of the gun.
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 05:39   #23
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1200 mah is what you want, and will fit mostly anywhere. Get at least two of them. The 1300, 1400 are too long for most stocks, tubes and grips, and the 2400, etc are too wide. A standard crane stock can usually carry two 1200, one in either side. Ensure you get the right voltage for your gun, it'll either be 7.4v or 11.1v depending on the guns motor and spring strength. Too much and you can strip things, too little an it may not cycle. Someone could easily tell you which I'm sure, even ask the retailer of the gun.
do you know if this lipo would fit?
its a 7.4V 2000mah 15-25C nunchuck battery with dimensions 125x21x10
https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...SOFT_Pack.html

It seems slim enough, and with that many mah's, it would last a while!
I feel like it might be too long though...

In any case, how would this one fare?
https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...SOFT_Pack.html
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 10:33   #24
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do you know if this lipo would fit?
its a 7.4V 2000mah 15-25C nunchuck battery with dimensions 125x21x10
https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...SOFT_Pack.html
Probably not unless you're fitting it into a crane style stock. Put them together and they're actually a pretty fat "brick". I have both 1200 mah and 1400 mah nunchucks. My gun is front wired and they fit inside the handguard, I'll see if they actually fit inside a rear wired crane stock but I've gotta get running now I'll take a picture later tonight.

I have some Hobby King lipos that I could sell you but it's be shipping out of Alberta to Vancouver though. (I have 4, not sure why I needed that many since my play style is really conservative but I got them 2 years ago).
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 11:32   #25
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do you know if this lipo would fit?
its a 7.4V 2000mah 15-25C nunchuck battery with dimensions 125x21x10
https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...SOFT_Pack.html
I have one. Fits in a crane stock no problems. Very good performance.
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 13:16   #26
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I've held both a King Arms Metal M4 and a G&G MOD1 and barely noticed a weight difference.. The durability is well worth going with the King Arms. I realize it's not as good looking from a distance as the G&G, but you can always put whatever rail you want on the front down the road and it will last you longer.

I also wanted to mention, if you are playing at Panther you will end up having to buy their BBs anyways, so there is no point in ordering some.

I agree on the IMAX B6AC charger, I have the pro one and it's fantastic, I remember getting it for cheap from china, but you won't find it cheap in Canada.

Personally I find I don't run out of power in a game day on a 1000mah battery, and a 1000mah 7.4v stick battery will fit in anything. Even if you change guns down the road it should be good for the long haul. And you can always buy two so you have a backup, though I'd recommend buying 2 batteries anyways, sucks to have your gun go down because you accidentally forgot to charge a battery.

As for a rig to hold your kill rag/mags/radio?, there are lots of options that won't break the bank. Some shops sell Canadian Forces webbing, which isn't the greatest setup but you can get it for $35ish so it might be a decent starter.

For the hoodie and jeans, you will stick out like a sore thumb and your jeans will get very heavy on a rainy day, even a cheap chinese made camo set would be an improvement, or even just wearing olive green colors. But I do know guys who've run with a hoodie and jeans for a while and got along okay.

Oh and those goggles will probably fog like crazy unless you add fans to them. Even thermal goggles in BC suck when it comes to fogging. Gunny on the LMAG forum sells a set of fans with a rechargable battery for $40, you could pm him and add that to any goggles to help with fogging though. Feel free to try them without fans first but I would bet money they fog.

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Old October 23rd, 2014, 13:30   #27
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Owning both a King Arms metal M4 and a G&G CM series gun I'll say that it may not feel different holding them for 5 min but makes a big difference after 5 hours of play.

For the batteries, if you've done all the right things to your gun (shimmed, greased, mosfet... etc.) then maybe a 1000mah battery would work for a whole day but on a stock gun it would be cutting it close. That's just me though and maybe I shoot more than the average player, don't know.
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 13:43   #28
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Wolver!ne just bought some 1300 mah Turnigy lipos, and although they slide into the crane stock easily enough, they stick out the end. A nunchuk will likely fit a crane stock, as it has two ports. If you ever changed up your stock though, now your batteries are mostly no good. It only takes a few seconds to switch over batteries. As long as you keep up with proper charging, two batteries will likely last you a whole day of gaming plus. Sometimes I get a day and a half or more out of one of mine.
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 15:15   #29
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for the price you listed the CM at, I would rather go for a KA full metal, and if you can't afford that, then a KA with a nylon fiber body. While the abs in the CM is fine, the nylon fiber will be more robust and stronger, the KA has a nicer gearbox shell and less likely to crack in colder temperature. Full metal m4s are only 20-40$ more than what you'd be paying for the CM or nylon fiber body.


Generally any battery that comes with a gun can't be trusted for long, nimh packs have a shelf life and if they aren't maintained properly they won't hold a charge for long, which is why lipos are a better value as long as you know how to take care of the lipos.
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 15:29   #30
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I see, everyone has really good points.

Funnily enough, I got offered a G&G TR418 for about 275$ including three hi-caps.
It has an 11.1v lipo ready burst fire mosfet and "custom outer barrel".

I want to know if there's something I should watch out for...if I'm not mistaken the TR418 runs for 400$+...so it seems like a bargain to me. WOuld the G&G be the better choice?

In regards to clothing, for now, my "home field" will be RIP...all indoors and away from the elements. I agree though, at some point in the future I need to get a nice pair of camo pants and vest. But all in due time

Just to recap, the 7.4V 2000mah battery I linked above WILL fit the CM18? how about the G&G TR418?
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