KJW G27 Upgrades

e-luder · September 7th, 2014, 17:24

Detonator Kits are expensive but in my opinion cery worth it. Very nice finish and drop in ready.

that Guarder kit is only expensive because of the little extras it comes with. even then, it might be cheaper to buy them individually.

If you're budget driven in your build, the TM G17 is not the way to go. Sure it will open up your selection of parts by a lot but really fancy slide kits for this system is more expensive than the G26 platform. My full size Glocks, personally, cost around $800-900. That not including all the importation fees and duties and what not i had to pay.

Glenzee · September 7th, 2014, 18:33

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Originally Posted by e-luder

Detonator Kits are expensive but in my opinion cery worth it. Very nice finish and drop in ready.

that Guarder kit is only expensive because of the little extras it comes with. even then, it might be cheaper to buy them individually.

If you're budget driven in your build, the TM G17 is not the way to go. Sure it will open up your selection of parts by a lot but really fancy slide kits for this system is more expensive than the G26 platform. My full size Glocks, personally, cost around $800-900. That not including all the importation fees and duties and what not i had to pay.

$900!:shock: That's pimp. Thanks for all the info you've posted on upgrading glocks. I think it's your fault I got into this so much now.

Hmm, well I thought I'd start with a TM G17. A basic PGS slide kit is about 100 and then a Guarder frame appears to be about 90-100 as well. I'd start with a few internals as well, but nothing crazy. I'd be into it around 500-600 and be relatively satisfied. I like the idea of getting a couple of different barrels and slides as well. It can be a WIP forever.

I'm losing a a bit of interest in the G27 just as I'm finding it is a limited model in many senses. (short barrel and really short grip and very few upgrades available) I got interested in the G17 when I saw someone's video that had the Guarder upgrade kit installed. Looked pretty sweet!

Glenzee · September 7th, 2014, 18:34

Looks like I might have a lead on a used TM G17 as well...

The cheapest I've found a new one online in Canada is actually from a local shop by me for 280.00.

MaybeStopCalling · September 7th, 2014, 19:54

I used a new TM G17 custom as the base for my builds. It was cheaper than the G17 regular, and I ended up ripping all the internals out into a new frame and slide set.

Glenzee · September 7th, 2014, 20:01

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Originally Posted by MaybeStopCalling

I used a new TM G17 custom as the base for my builds. It was cheaper than the G17 regular, and I ended up ripping all the internals out into a new frame and slide set.

Yeah I thought I could that too, but I couldn't find a custom priced any better than a standard. I guess the custom's externals might sell on the used market at least.

Kungpow · September 7th, 2014, 23:20

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Originally Posted by Glenzee

Yeah I thought I could that too, but I couldn't find a custom priced any better than a standard. I guess the custom's externals might sell on the used market at least.

You could build up from other Glock brands. Such as any WE Glocks, KJW Glocks or an Echo 1 Timberwolf.

e-luder · September 8th, 2014, 01:51

A G17 Custom is a bit cheaper than a standard G17.
They cost $250 all in in Canada and brand new. Plus it comes with some night sights. Can't go wrong with that.

Do what MaybeStopCalling did and just buy the Custom. Look through Canadian sites. I'm looking at one RIGHT NOW! ...AND IT"S IN STOCK!!!

Everything is the same as the standard edition with the exception of a longer rear body pin. You'll need to source a regular length pin if you don't want the thumbrest installed. Granted it comes with a tinted frame but then again, you'll be swapping it out for a Guarder one anyways. So that really shouldn't matter.

I can tell you right now, the biggest cost you'll run into are your slide kits. The really fancy ones are around $250-300 overseas. I wouldn't tackle internally upgrading the thing unless something breaks. Stock is always better than aftermarket parts...

Hurry up and get av'd. I've got Guarder G17 frames in black and 2013 European versions for sale. I can even sell you a pre-upgraded gun if you really want. But not until you're av'd...

Glenzee · September 8th, 2014, 02:05

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Originally Posted by e-luder

A G17 Custom is a bit cheaper than a standard G17.
They cost $250 all in in Canada and brand new. Plus it comes with some night sights. Can't go wrong with that.

Do what MaybeStopCalling did and just buy the Custom. Look through Canadian sites. I'm looking at one RIGHT NOW! ...AND IT"S IN STOCK!!!

Everything is the same as the standard edition with the exception of a longer rear body pin. You'll need to source a regular length pin if you don't want the thumbrest installed. Granted it comes with a tinted frame but then again, you'll be swapping it out for a Guarder one anyways. So that really shouldn't matter.

I can tell you right now, the biggest cost you'll run into are your slide kits. The really fancy ones are around $250-300 overseas. I wouldn't tackle internally upgrading the thing unless something breaks. Stock is always better than aftermarket parts...

Hurry up and get av'd. I've got Guarder G17 frames in black and 2013 European versions for sale. I can even sell you a pre-upgraded gun if you really want. But not until you're av'd...

Sweet bro! I know I've been waiting for them to approve me. I've read it takes a good while sometimes. (I got a good laugh at some of the people freaking out about waiting.) Yeah $250 isn't bad. I'll have to snoop around more.

What do you think of the basic black slide kit from PGC? I think I kind of want it stock looking. I may consider the ported slide version.

I appreciate your advice!

Glenzee · September 10th, 2014, 13:11

Just ordered my G17 custom! And now external mods!

Styrak · September 10th, 2014, 16:48

I just installed a PGC silver slide kit on a TM G18C. Great slide, great fit! You'll want to install an enhanced recoil/hammer spring as well, however.

Glenzee · September 10th, 2014, 22:16

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Originally Posted by Styrak

I just installed a PGC silver slide kit on a TM G18C. Great slide, great fit! You'll want to install an enhanced recoil/hammer spring as well, however.

Cool, thanks for that! I think I'm going with a standard black PGC slide kit. I was debating over the ported version...

MaybeStopCalling · September 12th, 2014, 17:51

Ports get really tiresome to clean. I went PGC standard with a HK3 Generation 4 frame. Drop in fit, no complaints.

Glenzee · September 12th, 2014, 19:09

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Originally Posted by MaybeStopCalling

Ports get really tiresome to clean. I went PGC standard with a HK3 Generation 4 frame. Drop in fit, no complaints.

Nice gun. Thanks for that. The hi-lighted part on the pic - is that the pinning done for strength on the mounting post of the frame?

Sweet Gen4 frame! I haven't seen one on an airsoft yet!

Glenzee · September 12th, 2014, 19:13

I'm going to need a tactical light too!

Saoi · September 14th, 2014, 02:46

I'm very tempted to go the route of picking up the G17 Custom since a bog standard G17 seems to be hard to source and the Custom *is* a bit cheaper (though the cansoft lower is going to be quick to go).

However, I've not been able to find a source for that shorter rear frame pin. Any ideas?

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September 7th, 2014, 17:24	#16
e-luder Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Centre Mass	Detonator Kits are expensive but in my opinion cery worth it. Very nice finish and drop in ready. that Guarder kit is only expensive because of the little extras it comes with. even then, it might be cheaper to buy them individually. If you're budget driven in your build, the TM G17 is not the way to go. Sure it will open up your selection of parts by a lot but really fancy slide kits for this system is more expensive than the G26 platform. My full size Glocks, personally, cost around $800-900. That not including all the importation fees and duties and what not i had to pay. __________________ "May you fight with the strength of ten full grown men."

September 7th, 2014, 18:34	#18
Glenzee Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Alberta	Looks like I might have a lead on a used TM G17 as well... The cheapest I've found a new one online in Canada is actually from a local shop by me for 280.00. Last edited by Glenzee; September 7th, 2014 at 19:04.. Reason: Added info

September 8th, 2014, 01:51	#22
e-luder Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Centre Mass	A G17 Custom is a bit cheaper than a standard G17. They cost $250 all in in Canada and brand new. Plus it comes with some night sights. Can't go wrong with that. Do what MaybeStopCalling did and just buy the Custom. Look through Canadian sites. I'm looking at one RIGHT NOW! ...AND IT"S IN STOCK!!! Everything is the same as the standard edition with the exception of a longer rear body pin. You'll need to source a regular length pin if you don't want the thumbrest installed. Granted it comes with a tinted frame but then again, you'll be swapping it out for a Guarder one anyways. So that really shouldn't matter. I can tell you right now, the biggest cost you'll run into are your slide kits. The really fancy ones are around $250-300 overseas. I wouldn't tackle internally upgrading the thing unless something breaks. Stock is always better than aftermarket parts... Hurry up and get av'd. I've got Guarder G17 frames in black and 2013 European versions for sale. I can even sell you a pre-upgraded gun if you really want. But not until you're av'd... __________________ "May you fight with the strength of ten full grown men."

September 7th, 2014, 19:54	#19
MaybeStopCalling Green Synergy Trader rating Join Date: May 2009	I used a new TM G17 custom as the base for my builds. It was cheaper than the G17 regular, and I ended up ripping all the internals out into a new frame and slide set.

September 10th, 2014, 13:11	#24
Glenzee Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Alberta	Just ordered my G17 custom! And now external mods!

September 10th, 2014, 16:48	#25
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	I just installed a PGC silver slide kit on a TM G18C. Great slide, great fit! You'll want to install an enhanced recoil/hammer spring as well, however. __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

September 12th, 2014, 17:51	#27
MaybeStopCalling Green Synergy Trader rating Join Date: May 2009	Ports get really tiresome to clean. I went PGC standard with a HK3 Generation 4 frame. Drop in fit, no complaints.

September 12th, 2014, 19:13	#29
Glenzee Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Alberta	I'm going to need a tactical light too!

September 14th, 2014, 02:46	#30
Saoi Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Victoria, BC	I'm very tempted to go the route of picking up the G17 Custom since a bog standard G17 seems to be hard to source and the Custom is a bit cheaper (though the cansoft lower is going to be quick to go). However, I've not been able to find a source for that shorter rear frame pin. Any ideas?

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