Goggles and Fogging

Mikotech · March 12th, 2014, 20:32

JT paintball mask with thermal lenses and I add 2x 5volts fan of 1" square that I run with a small battery pack attached to the elastic with 2xAAA battery and a switch. Running at 3 volts makes the fans very silent and the air flow cool down your face when too hot.
I love to see people moving there heads to find the last squared cm not fogged to see where they going. You can run about 4 hours non stop with 2xAAA and I only doing some 1-2 minutes at the time to unfog after a run or efforts. I also have a 2x AA battery pack that can run for 10-12 hours non stop.

Bigload · March 12th, 2014, 23:19

^^ Mikotech, do you have some photos or write ups on how to rig it up to your goggles?

Bigload · March 13th, 2014, 00:20

BTW, do you guys happen to test which paintball masks fit with a fast helmet?

Red Dot · March 13th, 2014, 02:43

On JT masks you can cut out a small hole on the top of the frame and fit a fan on top. I'll try to take pics tomorrow morning to show this.

As for with a helmet it may not work but I run ballcaps so I can't answer it definitively.

Bigload · March 13th, 2014, 21:31

Thanks for the inspiration, I looked on you tube and might try mounting it on a set of replica's to test.

ESS Fan form Ebay - clone or not? $60 shipped.

CR0M · March 13th, 2014, 22:03

I have a pair of goggles that I jury rigged micro fans connected to 9v battery pack.

I call them my last resort goggles. They are just too big and cumbersome for my liking, but when worst comes to worst I have them. Ive never had to use them yet though.

My go to right now are crews strykers, they work for me so far...

Bigload · March 14th, 2014, 00:48

I just ordered some parts on ebay

1. Brushless 25mmx25mmx07mm slip fan
2. Some 14500 3.6v AA size Lipo battery
3. Battery Housing with Switch
4. USMC (Ess knock offs) Goggles to test

Oh and yes,

I ordered Cat Crap to try as well, shipped to house is $12.

Red Dot · March 14th, 2014, 04:22

This is what I ordered:

G&G Turbo Fan for Tactical Goggles (Extremely Low Noise Super High RPM) - Evike

Got it soldered at Pinnacle Hobbies, worked extremely well once I modded my goggles.

You can see it installed on here, it uses zip ties... I bought small black ones from Canadian Tire as they fit better.

Here you can see the mod, I cut around a 4x4 square in the top of the goggles... very easy and the fan covers it tightly so a BB can't get in.

Simple velcro strap holding the battery box. The wires track pretty good through the frame and around the goggle strap.

All in all a simple mod but so far it's been priceless for me.

graff · March 14th, 2014, 05:55

Canadian company

http://www.fanzkit.com/

http://www.fanzkit.com/FANZ_SF20_Sin...4_7609571.aspx

kit comes with pretty much everything you need to install.

No need to cut any of your mask to mount the fan. JT masks for example have the slots in the frame which allows enough air from the fan into the mask

Bigload · March 14th, 2014, 10:13

^^ Thanks for the link, it looks exactly like the parts I ordered online, but for $25 less!

The fan and battery housing was $5 in total.

BTW, would JT masks fit when using with a FAST helmet?

Red Dot · March 14th, 2014, 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by graff

No need to cut any of your mask to mount the fan. JT masks for example have the slots in the frame which allows enough air from the fan into the mask

I found a night and day difference modding the frame. It has slots but they are tiny, now with no resistance it's smooth sailing.

targetGspot · March 14th, 2014, 12:01

I simply can't wear full face/goggle mask setup. They always fog for me. I have to go with a 2 piece, glasses and lower face guard, (glasses work better for me than goggles, even vents and fans don't work). Or else I wear mesh. Never had a pellet shatter on it,(we don't use crap ammo). I play outdoors only and I find mesh perfect for most of the day, unless it's crazy sunny, but at dusk it becomes hard to see through so I switch to clear glasses.

slowbird · March 15th, 2014, 03:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by airsoftjunky

I swear by the x800's combined with fogtech. Only had slight fog a time or two when I was lying prone, sniping, on a very hot day, tensed up, and sweating like a pig. I found though that you have to clean the lens with soapy warm water, then liberally fog tech them prior to EVERY game day.

^^^ This x2

Jimski · March 15th, 2014, 10:25

x800 have no foam they breathe better.

Mikotech · March 15th, 2014, 15:41

Here's a couple of pics and a bit of infos:

Similar fans: http://www.digikey.ca/product-search...569-ND&stock=1

The battery box:http://www.digikey.ca/product-search...ds=SBH321AS-ND

The 2 fans are held by 2 nylon screws and nuts and shoe-goo but just the shoe goo is enough.
The bottom of the pack holds under the elastic with a tie-wrap and the cover only with the elastic that pass over.
It makes changing the AA or AAA battery a breeze.
There's small clips too on the enclosure to keep it closed.
You can see the part# on the fans but the cheapest from digikey is the one linked. Shipping is flat 8$. A setup like that is about 35$ with shipping and couples of wiring to do but it is the most silent I tested and I tested 10 different fans in the 20mmx20mm up to 25mmx25mm in 3.3V and 5V operations. I tested them for a project at work and found a good application for them in my mask.
The air flow is very efficient without cutting the upper drilled membrane on top of goggles but can be improved by cutting a square under the fans.
The goal was to have an efficient airflow while keeping it the more silent possible. With one fan the needed airflow necessary made the sound level to high for me.
When fogging, I start the fan for sometimes 15 seconds or 1-2 minutes. It depends on the external environment like winds, temperatures, humidity etc...

Hope it helps!

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March 12th, 2014, 23:19	#17
Bigload Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Stouffville	^^ Mikotech, do you have some photos or write ups on how to rig it up to your goggles? __________________ M4 MK12 MOD0, SBR, KC02 G17 (B. A. Level 2 Cert.)

March 13th, 2014, 00:20	#18
Bigload Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Stouffville	BTW, do you guys happen to test which paintball masks fit with a fast helmet? __________________ M4 MK12 MOD0, SBR, KC02 G17 (B. A. Level 2 Cert.)

March 13th, 2014, 21:31	#20
Bigload Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Stouffville	Thanks for the inspiration, I looked on you tube and might try mounting it on a set of replica's to test. ESS Fan form Ebay - clone or not? $60 shipped. __________________ M4 MK12 MOD0, SBR, KC02 G17 (B. A. Level 2 Cert.)

March 12th, 2014, 20:32	#16
Mikotech Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Greenfield Park	JT paintball mask with thermal lenses and I add 2x 5volts fan of 1" square that I run with a small battery pack attached to the elastic with 2xAAA battery and a switch. Running at 3 volts makes the fans very silent and the air flow cool down your face when too hot. I love to see people moving there heads to find the last squared cm not fogged to see where they going. You can run about 4 hours non stop with 2xAAA and I only doing some 1-2 minutes at the time to unfog after a run or efforts. I also have a 2x AA battery pack that can run for 10-12 hours non stop.

March 13th, 2014, 02:43	#19
Red Dot Google level: BOSS Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Stouffville, Ontario	On JT masks you can cut out a small hole on the top of the frame and fit a fan on top. I'll try to take pics tomorrow morning to show this. As for with a helmet it may not work but I run ballcaps so I can't answer it definitively.

March 13th, 2014, 22:03	#21
CR0M Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Hamilton	I have a pair of goggles that I jury rigged micro fans connected to 9v battery pack. I call them my last resort goggles. They are just too big and cumbersome for my liking, but when worst comes to worst I have them. Ive never had to use them yet though. My go to right now are crews strykers, they work for me so far... __________________ WBR

March 14th, 2014, 00:48	#22
Bigload Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Stouffville	I just ordered some parts on ebay 1. Brushless 25mmx25mmx07mm slip fan 2. Some 14500 3.6v AA size Lipo battery 3. Battery Housing with Switch 4. USMC (Ess knock offs) Goggles to test Oh and yes, I ordered Cat Crap to try as well, shipped to house is $12. __________________ M4 MK12 MOD0, SBR, KC02 G17 (B. A. Level 2 Cert.)

March 14th, 2014, 04:22	#23
Red Dot Google level: BOSS Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Stouffville, Ontario	This is what I ordered: G&G Turbo Fan for Tactical Goggles (Extremely Low Noise Super High RPM) - Evike Got it soldered at Pinnacle Hobbies, worked extremely well once I modded my goggles. You can see it installed on here, it uses zip ties... I bought small black ones from Canadian Tire as they fit better. Here you can see the mod, I cut around a 4x4 square in the top of the goggles... very easy and the fan covers it tightly so a BB can't get in. Simple velcro strap holding the battery box. The wires track pretty good through the frame and around the goggle strap. All in all a simple mod but so far it's been priceless for me.

March 14th, 2014, 05:55	#24
graff Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ont	Canadian company http://www.fanzkit.com/ http://www.fanzkit.com/FANZ_SF20_Sin...4_7609571.aspx kit comes with pretty much everything you need to install. No need to cut any of your mask to mount the fan. JT masks for example have the slots in the frame which allows enough air from the fan into the mask Last edited by graff; March 14th, 2014 at 06:02..

March 14th, 2014, 10:13	#25
Bigload Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Stouffville	^^ Thanks for the link, it looks exactly like the parts I ordered online, but for $25 less! The fan and battery housing was $5 in total. BTW, would JT masks fit when using with a FAST helmet? __________________ M4 MK12 MOD0, SBR, KC02 G17 (B. A. Level 2 Cert.)

March 14th, 2014, 12:01	#27
targetGspot Trader rating Join Date: May 2009 Location: Manitoba	I simply can't wear full face/goggle mask setup. They always fog for me. I have to go with a 2 piece, glasses and lower face guard, (glasses work better for me than goggles, even vents and fans don't work). Or else I wear mesh. Never had a pellet shatter on it,(we don't use crap ammo). I play outdoors only and I find mesh perfect for most of the day, unless it's crazy sunny, but at dusk it becomes hard to see through so I switch to clear glasses. __________________

March 15th, 2014, 10:25	#29
Jimski Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Montreal	x800 have no foam they breathe better. __________________

March 15th, 2014, 15:41	#30
Mikotech Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Greenfield Park	Here's a couple of pics and a bit of infos: Similar fans: http://www.digikey.ca/product-search...569-ND&stock=1 The battery box:http://www.digikey.ca/product-search...ds=SBH321AS-ND The 2 fans are held by 2 nylon screws and nuts and shoe-goo but just the shoe goo is enough. The bottom of the pack holds under the elastic with a tie-wrap and the cover only with the elastic that pass over. It makes changing the AA or AAA battery a breeze. There's small clips too on the enclosure to keep it closed. You can see the part# on the fans but the cheapest from digikey is the one linked. Shipping is flat 8$. A setup like that is about 35$ with shipping and couples of wiring to do but it is the most silent I tested and I tested 10 different fans in the 20mmx20mm up to 25mmx25mm in 3.3V and 5V operations. I tested them for a project at work and found a good application for them in my mask. The air flow is very efficient without cutting the upper drilled membrane on top of goggles but can be improved by cutting a square under the fans. The goal was to have an efficient airflow while keeping it the more silent possible. With one fan the needed airflow necessary made the sound level to high for me. When fogging, I start the fan for sometimes 15 seconds or 1-2 minutes. It depends on the external environment like winds, temperatures, humidity etc... Hope it helps!

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