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Old November 29th, 2012, 20:48   #16
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There are pistols that suit your needs in the classifieds section of the site. The sooner you get age verified the sooner you can start.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 20:50   #17
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Okay.... save up your money. Nothing good comes out of buying cheap crap. Welcome to REAL LIFE.
Don't appreciate it? Well you don't really have a choice.
If your not willing to upgrade your budget you must downgrade your expectations.
You won't need a holster right away but it is useful if you wish to game the pistol. Also you will not need a second mag, but again the advantages are obvious.
You will also want to get your hands on an AI (Airsoft Innovations) Propane Adaptor kit. This will let you use normal Propane (the kit comes with silicon oil). This will save you allot in costs. (green gas-$20.00 for 8oz. propane $5.00 for 16oz)

This sounds harsh I know. But it has to. Phloudernow has done many builds and knows airsoft pretty darn well if you ask me. But look at it. You want a good working pistol then you need to save up. Not by that new video game. Work an extra shift at work, don't eat out the next few weeks. Saving a few more bucks adds up.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 21:00   #18
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People are trying to emphasize that you're going to be hard pressed to find a good gun for $100. If you get one for $100, it's probably a piece of crap, or was good at one time, but is on its last legs.

KJW is a decent brand. I have several KJWs myself. I have a feeling that the only reason they're $100 is because they've got a fully clear body, so they're not selling as well. At $100, a KJW should hold you over just fine.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 21:01   #19
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Okay.... save up your money. Nothing good comes out of buying cheap crap. Welcome to REAL LIFE.
Don't appreciate it? Well you don't really have a choice.
If your not willing to upgrade your budget you must downgrade your expectations.
You won't need a holster right away but it is useful if you wish to game the pistol. Also you will not need a second mag, but again the advantages are obvious.
You will also want to get your hands on an AI (Airsoft Innovations) Propane Adaptor kit. This will let you use normal Propane (the kit comes with silicon oil). This will save you allot in costs. (green gas-$20.00 for 8oz. propane $5.00 for 16oz)
Not expecting the best pistol, simply something that will work. KJW was noted as a workhorse and i have read plenty of reviews that saw mostly good things. I have a holster positioned on my vest waiting to be filled and will be grabbing the kit as soon as possible. Green Gas is way overpriced in a can. I have ordered it with 2 additional magazines for pistol games.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 21:03   #20
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People are trying to emphasize that you're going to be hard pressed to find a good gun for $100. If you get one for $100, it's probably a piece of crap, or was good at one time, but is on its last legs.

KJW is a decent brand. I have several KJWs myself. I have a feeling that the only reason they're $100 is because they've got a fully clear body, so they're not selling as well. At $100, a KJW should hold you over just fine.
This was the resin i considered them, i don't mind the clear body as it can be painted or changed, i have heard they are made of a very durable Polymer body thats is not easy to crack, i think it will work well as well as long as i keep things checked on.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 21:04   #21
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Help Me find cost effective solutions and make suggestions to assist me in my purchases rather then turning me away from the sport. Jupiterl simply told me to screw off. Not appreciated.
This is airsoft. The use of the phrase "cost-effective" is very much a relative term in this sport. Sorry to hurt your feelings, but that's the way it is. Unless all you are going to do is some plinking in the basement, $200.00 is but a small drop in a very large bucket that you can expect to spend over time in this hobby... either in the short term, or the long.

As the saying goes, want it sugar coated? Go to a candy shop..
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Old November 29th, 2012, 21:12   #22
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This is airsoft. The use of the phrase "cost-effective" is very much a relative term in this sport. Sorry to hurt your feelings, but that's the way it is. Unless all you are going to do is some plinking in the basement, $200.00 is but a small drop in a very large bucket that you can expect to spend over time in this hobby... either in the short term, or the long.

As the saying goes, want it sugar coated? Go to a candy shop..
Brand new KJW p226 200 brand new, purchased one for 99.95 and got 2 magazines and 4000 bb's for 175$. There may be a bucket, but it doesn't have to be huge if you look around. i saved over 100 dollars on that order. if i do that for every purchase my bucket won't be that big. its not about my feeling but the reality of everyone telling me that i need to spend 200 dollars on a pistol or not play is not warranted, as i did buy a 200 dollar pistol, for 100 bucks.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 21:20   #23
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Brand new KJW p226 200 brand new, purchased one for 99.95 and got 2 magazines and 4000 bb's for 175$. There may be a bucket, but it doesn't have to be huge if you look around. i saved over 100 dollars on that order. if i do that for every purchase my bucket won't be that big. its not about my feeling but the reality of everyone telling me that i need to spend 200 dollars on a pistol or not play is not warranted, as i did buy a 200 dollar pistol, for 100 bucks.
Plastic frame. If you are happy with that, great.. Metal framed KJW M9's/P226's can be found for $200.00. There is a reason why buyairsoft is blowing them out.. they can't be selling very much of them in the current market, now that metal framed pistols are much more available to the savvy buyer.

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Old November 29th, 2012, 21:24   #24
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Plastic frame. If you are happy with that, great..
Durable Polymer. Have heard no issues with cracking or damages. plea show them to me if you can find them. Also it is ok with me as i am sure it would cost ALOT more with metal. a 100 dollar KJW is a steal. I think its great that your Savvy, but to find one for 100 bucks, even with a polymer lower. Please show me where they can be found brand new in canada for 100 bucks and i'l agree with you that they are a better buy.

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Old November 29th, 2012, 21:30   #25
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My first KJW M9 had a cansoft frame, and it's lasted me a couple years of relatively light use so far.

The mag hasn't lasted though. If you're going to buy more mags, spend a little more and get a TM mag (KJW is TM compatible).

Anyway, in the defence of the "big bucket" people (of which I am one, but only because I blindly tell myself that "it would be so much more fun if I just had one more [insert piece of gear here]"), you made a compromise, and got a clear plastic framed gun.
So...Yeah...*turns nose up snobbily at your plasticness*
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Old November 29th, 2012, 21:30   #26
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Durable Polymer. Have heard no issues with cracking or damages. plea show them to me if you can find them. Also it is ok with me as i am sure it would cost ALOT more with metal. a 100 dollar KJW is a steal. Please show me the full metal Pistols on Buyairsoft.ca as i can't find them all i see is also polymer pistols for 150$
Get age-verified. I didn't say they were on buyairsoft.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 21:35   #27
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My first KJW M9 had a cansoft frame, and it's lasted me a couple years of relatively light use so far.

The mag hasn't lasted though. If you're going to buy more mags, spend a little more and get a TM mag (KJW is TM compatible).

Anyway, in the defence of the "big bucket" people (of which I am one, but only because I blindly tell myself that "it would be so much more fun if I just had one more [insert piece of gear here]"), you made a compromise, and got a clear plastic framed gun.
So...Yeah...*turns nose up snobbily at your plasticness*
In the OP's defence.. but i also had the KJW M9 "cansoft" to start - no issues with it at all for the year i used it.. but it just wasn't metal. Found a deal on the FM version and bought another one. Now i've got a spare lower for the internal parts, and an additional (metal, cansoft version has the same slide assembly as FM) upper with threaded barrel and silencer for the FM primary.

If i were to do it again, and they were as readily available at the time as they are now, FM the first time, done deal.

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Old November 29th, 2012, 21:39   #28
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LOL at firestorm. We'll see what happens with it. i bought 2 extra generic mags because whey were pretty cheap, may regret it or it may work. that sounds smart, it there is a reasonable deal after i get into it more for a FM version i won't hesitate.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 21:44   #29
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But then you'll have wasted $100 on a plastic gun, and people will rub your nose in it. People will chant "buy cheap, buy twice" as you do your walk of shame into the staging area of a game and sheepishly load the new gun that has replaced the original.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 21:45   #30
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It can go so many ways, can only hope for the best. thanks for the tips.
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