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Old March 19th, 2012, 07:44   #16
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ok, i just browsed the bb bastard website and saw the cnc bbs. im not spending 12$ plus shiping on ten bbs. it says its re-usable, but i play in the woods and would have a hell of a time finding these. i think i wil go fr the .28 clea stealth "super hard" ones, as i am finding myself in the stealth role alot, since no one else that i know seems to be very sneeky. anyway, thanks for the help guys!
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Old March 19th, 2012, 07:49   #17
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Go for black BBs for stealth. Silica BBs are not allowed on every field.
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Old March 19th, 2012, 13:17   #18
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ok, i just browsed the bb bastard website and saw the cnc bbs. im not spending 12$ plus shiping on ten bbs. it says its re-usable, but i play in the woods and would have a hell of a time finding these. i think i wil go fr the .28 clea stealth "super hard" ones, as i am finding myself in the stealth role alot, since no one else that i know seems to be very sneeky. anyway, thanks for the help guys!
go with the normal .36 styrene BBs there OD in color and have a fairly low trace.
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Old March 19th, 2012, 13:28   #19
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Silica BB's are dangerous. I will not play in any event with Silicas.
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Old March 19th, 2012, 13:33   #20
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Silica BB's are dangerous. I will not play in any event with Silicas.
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Old March 19th, 2012, 13:33   #21
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Silica BB's are dangerous. I will not play in any event with Silicas.
I love silicas, there great bbs and no more "dangerous" than any other bb. They will brake glass but that is simply due to the fact that they do not mush on impact with a hard surface, they do no more damage to a person that any other bb.
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Old March 19th, 2012, 13:34   #22
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Ya, the green .36g are awesome, you can track their flight and compensate accordingly for a follow up shot. Don't bother with black, not heavy enough nor can you see them, and seeing your round fly is massively important for accurate longer range shooting.
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Old March 19th, 2012, 14:34   #23
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back when i played, i had my M14 set up for about 385fps. I forget all the science behind it now, but long story short, my research (re: i read other people's research) indicated that this was the ideal FPS for range, accuracy and mechbox longevity.

Any more FPS would result in only marginal range increase and would sacrifice in the other areas..
i use gas so there is no gearbox, and also i dont play on an "official" field, i play with 10-25 friends but i will probably use .36 od's because i love the stealth role and i usually find my self engaging a target at 50-150 feet and my mp5 an barley shoot 75 feet so i am selling it and getting the 10/22. i used an fps calculator to calculate what 450 fps with a .2 would be with a .36 (link for calculator here: http://www.mediafire.com/?q3ttuomu9ev9yoa ) and the result was 337 fps, but i know that the higher the gram in a gas gun, the more joules. does anyone know how to factor in that so i can find out the true fps?
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Old March 19th, 2012, 14:40   #24
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i use gas so there is no gearbox, and also i dont play on an "official" field, i play with 10-25 friends but i will probably use .36 od's because i love the stealth role and i usually find my self engaging a target at 50-150 feet and my mp5 an barley shoot 75 feet so i am selling it and getting the 10/22. i used an fps calculator to calculate what 450 fps with a .2 would be with a .36 (link for calculator here: http://www.mediafire.com/?q3ttuomu9ev9yoa ) and the result was 337 fps, but i know that the higher the gram in a gas gun, the more joules. does anyone know how to factor in that so i can find out the true fps?

Mechbox or no the 385fps was found to be perfect in relation to the shape of the BBs in flight. Basically around 385fps is when you have optimum accuracy and range.

P.S. I am assuming the 385fps is found with .20 gram BBs
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Old March 19th, 2012, 14:49   #25
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remember, with gas, the longer the BB stays in the barrel (eg heavier BB) the higher your resulting energy (joules) will be, because your propane has more time to expand

at a fixed distance and gas output, the BB energy on impact will increase as you increase the weight of the BB.

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Old March 19th, 2012, 15:14   #26
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0.28 min, 0.30 + the better.
I second this. 0.28g should be the minimum you're looking at in a DMR or sniper role. Personally I would recommend 0.30g or greater as kalnaren did.

The heavier your BB, the more resistance it will have to air currents, brush, drag, etc. And the heavier BB, while travelling slower than a lighter BB fired from the same gun, will also get you better range as it will hold its energy for longer because of that weight.

So for real range and accuracy, the general rule is the heavier, the better.
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Old March 19th, 2012, 16:33   #27
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i use gas so there is no gearbox, and also i dont play on an "official" field, i play with 10-25 friends but i will probably use .36 od's because i love the stealth role and i usually find my self engaging a target at 50-150 feet and my mp5 an barley shoot 75 feet so i am selling it and getting the 10/22. i used an fps calculator to calculate what 450 fps with a .2 would be with a .36 (link for calculator here: http://www.mediafire.com/?q3ttuomu9ev9yoa ) and the result was 337 fps, but i know that the higher the gram in a gas gun, the more joules. does anyone know how to factor in that so i can find out the true fps?
Why do you need 450fps? Especially if you plan to engage so closely?

As far as your MP5 goes, let me guess, you were using light BBs? My almost stock A5, shooting 360fps w/0/20g, would get 0.28g BBs out to 200ft easily......
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Old March 19th, 2012, 23:56   #28
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Only dmr can decide what BB is best for dmr.

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Old March 19th, 2012, 23:59   #29
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best thing to do is buy a small amount of different weights and see for yourself. Everyone will tell you different things because people can have different experiences.
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Old March 20th, 2012, 10:36   #30
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I think BB Bastard should offer mixed bags of test ammo, say 100rds each of every weight for a few bucks. Would be perfect for cases such as this.....
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