cheap snipers and upgrades

[Outcast569]

Even if you start out with a cheap clone you still need all the parts to go in it. Same price. Your better off to pay more when you can then ever cheap out on a bolt action.

You will regret it and it does ruin the sport for people. Dont bother.

[mas_oyama]

Originally Posted by The Hunter

Just remember like anything else, a lot of people pay for the "tried tested and true" being comfortable with a buy for most people is worth the extra cash.
I am one of those people, I will pay extra for the comfort and belief that it will be "better" and last me longer.
so its up to you, pay for a clone and upgrade everything and hope the body holds up, or buy a good gun upgrade everything knowing it will hold up.

Can the body really breaks? I mean its a full metal gun... how can the body really break?

There is BrokenBird who sells that WELL L96 for 300$... comes with the scope and bipod, 4 mags, and it has a PDI hopup, a tighbore barrel and a custom paint job... if the body is fine... theoritically, the only things that would need to be upgraded is the piston/spring and maybe the bolt itself...

would that be a good deal? I mean a stock well is 300... so for the same price I get the barrel, hop up and paintjob, plus 2-3 mags, as they probably don't come with 4... So how is this deal?

at this point, it looks like the best deal I seen...

[Amos]

Problem is the outer parts of the gun are out of spec with aftermarket parts.

For a bolt action, you need things to be precise and crisp. You wont get that with a clone bolt action.

[mas_oyama]

So then what should i do? Wait and get a new Maruzen later when i have more budget? Would that be the best one for L96?

How presice is a stock Maruzen? What are the mods I should consider for it?

[T@NK]

Originally Posted by Jagdalex

You can get a clone, I did myself got a WELL L96 but I have upgraded most of the parts for Modify and PDI parts (the hop-up is especially important) and it shoots better than my friends Maruzen with some upgrades. It cost me all in all 400$ and it shoots WAY better than a new stock Maruzen that will cost you about that price in CAD.

Seriously alot of people say don't get a clone, but it is not a clone anymore when almost everything has been upgraded. I just laugh when I see some guys putting 800$ for a "the real deal" when they have the same accuracy as I have for half the price...BTW it's not a money sink, I will not put anymore money into that rifle...and it shoots arrows, I am able to hit a body size target constantly at 175 feet. For a 400$ investment I can't ask for more...But on the other hand though do not get a cheap VSR clone. The L96 clones are good because you can fit the PDI hop-up that goes into the Maruzen and TBH that it what making the BIG difference with this clone.

upgrade a WELL L96 with pdi parts... feels like putting a shinney BMW engine into a 20 years old broken Toyota, good thoughts...

[Caspian]

I've gamed with a Mauser a few months back at a game in Sherbrooke.
The gun is pretty good, in my opinion. It's accurate if you adjust your scope and hopup and I'd give it a 7/10 for the price.
I've seen some A&K SVD's out there for 250$ though. Don't know much about them, but I've heard they're alright since you said you're on a budget(as am I, I plan on getting myself a new AEG soon enough).
A few weeks ago - the good friend of mine who owns the sniper took out three guys with it in less than 15 seconds with ease, but I would suggest an AEG DMR.
Auto > Semi in some situations, and the good thing about an AEG is you can switch between both settings. So it's a win-win situation.

[MASAKO]

Originally Posted by Amos

Problem is the outer parts of the gun are out of spec with aftermarket parts.

For a bolt action, you need things to be precise and crisp. You wont get that with a clone bolt action.

Trust this man, the rifle that you tested fire at Tracy field is previosely was own by him and all work were done by him even paint job. I got 4 confirm kill within distance where normal AEG can't reach.

[Amos]

If you're going L96, you should get a TM, once upgraded with PDI parts, they're far superior to the Maruzen ones.

[mas_oyama]

Originally Posted by MASAKO

Trust this man, the rifle that you tested fire at Tracy field is previosely was own by him and all work were done by him even paint job. I got 4 confirm kill within distance where normal AEG can't reach.

Do you were the guy who had me try the gun? You know I hate you? lol. because of you, I think of nothing else since then than to get myself one XD

@Caspian: yeah semi + Auto is WAAAAY better, in a sense, than bolt action. HOWEVER. We play airsoft for the fun of it. And for me, a bolt action is so much fun! A DMR is the ultimate shit in real life, but for me, I just love the feel of a good bolt action! hehe.

@Amos: If you are the one who built MASAKO's sniper rifle... I'd like you to make me one too. lol. Now your profile says you are in manitoba... I don't know how you usually proceed for that kind of stuff, its not like I'll drive all the way from Montreal to winnipeg... lol. if you are interested into getting that little contract, contact me in PM so we can talk about what kind of upgrade you can do and what would be the cost... so please just contact me in PM if you're interested! I could save money for 2-3 months if needed... Cause I just LOVED MASAKO's gun...

[MASAKO]

Originally Posted by mas_oyama

Do you were the guy who had me try the gun? You know I hate you? lol. because of you, I think of nothing else since then than to get myself one XD

@Caspian: yeah semi + Auto is WAAAAY better, in a sense, than bolt action. HOWEVER. We play airsoft for the fun of it. And for me, a bolt action is so much fun! A DMR is the ultimate shit in real life, but for me, I just love the feel of a good bolt action! hehe.

@Amos: If you are the one who built MASAKO's sniper rifle... I'd like you to make me one too. lol. Now your profile says you are in manitoba... I don't know how you usually proceed for that kind of stuff, its not like I'll drive all the way from Montreal to winnipeg... lol. if you are interested into getting that little contract, contact me in PM so we can talk about what kind of upgrade you can do and what would be the cost... so please just contact me in PM if you're interested! I could save money for 2-3 months if needed... Cause I just LOVED MASAKO's gun...

PM is the key. YES, that's my boyfriend. I will let him knew that you hate him.

[Kos-Mos]

Originally Posted by mas_oyama

Do you were the guy who had me try the gun? You know I hate you? lol. because of you, I think of nothing else since then than to get myself one XD

@Caspian: yeah semi + Auto is WAAAAY better, in a sense, than bolt action. HOWEVER. We play airsoft for the fun of it. And for me, a bolt action is so much fun! A DMR is the ultimate shit in real life, but for me, I just love the feel of a good bolt action! hehe.

@Amos: If you are the one who built MASAKO's sniper rifle... I'd like you to make me one too. lol. Now your profile says you are in manitoba... I don't know how you usually proceed for that kind of stuff, its not like I'll drive all the way from Montreal to winnipeg... lol. if you are interested into getting that little contract, contact me in PM so we can talk about what kind of upgrade you can do and what would be the cost... so please just contact me in PM if you're interested! I could save money for 2-3 months if needed... Cause I just LOVED MASAKO's gun...

You REALLY should save and either have Amos build you a TM L96 or buy a Maruzen and do it (or a TM and do it, all the same).

I had a Mauser. I also had a few clones and I had a Maruzen. I miss the Maruzen. I tried to upgrade the Mauser with all PDI parts (LV3 bolt, tightbore, hop-up and trigger). Every part had to be modified to fit and even then it was not perfect. Keep in mind that I had been working as gundoc for over 5 years already... if you are not doing all your maintenance and upgrades on you AEG, don't even try to upgrade a bolt action.

The Mauzer is made by Well, so both are equally piss-poor. If you like the look of the stock, try it first. The grip is extremely wide and not ergonomic at all (the palm rest is too square and you get blisters on the side of the wrist) and since it's two parts, it is flexing and creaking a lot. I changed all the cross-screws with steel ones and nuts because the stock screws where stripped. I also had to add some screws at the rear, just front and back of the adjustment for the cheek rest because the pressure from the locking screw was splitting the stock in two.

Only reason to buy this gun is to reinforce the stock and use it on a Maruzen if you like the look and feel.

[mas_oyama]

Originally Posted by MASAKO

PM is the key. YES, that's my boyfriend. I will let him knew that you hate him.

lol. alright. Let him know! hehe. Just make sure he knows this is a joke XD

[The Hunter]

Originally Posted by mas_oyama

Can the body really breaks? I mean its a full metal gun... how can the body really break?

No I said hold up, not so much "break". That was me being lazy and meaning everything except the internals being reliable and not running into things like upper lower receiver gaps and other "cheap" problems that come with cheaper guns.

oh and I am 215LBS. I have fallen before and yes metal guns can break when you are fat like me

[mas_oyama]

Originally Posted by The Hunter

No I said hold up, not so much "break". That was me being lazy and meaning everything except the internals being reliable and not running into things like upper lower receiver gaps and other "cheap" problems that come with cheaper guns.

oh and I am 215LBS. I have fallen before and yes metal guns can break when you are fat like me

lol. well I'm 140lbs so it shouldn't be too much of a problem... but I guess it would still be possible depending how you hit the gun...

But I was more talking about them breaking on their own from firing and stuff.

[The Hunter]

Originally Posted by mas_oyama

lol. well I'm 140lbs so...

I hate you





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