M4 with a shotgun

[Aegiis]

Originally Posted by DrSmashPanda

What's wrong with using just a crossman walmart shotty painted black lol. Shotguns aren't even that effective vs. everything else anyway, but it would look dam sexy

And that, my man, is where you are horribly wrong. Even outside.

It's as silent as a BA, and with .28, same range than most AEGs. Ask around (Silverthorn, Long Bong, CDN Stalker...)

I've had my fair share of kills with a M3, not counting CQB.

[DrSmashPanda]

I'm just gonna go ahead and trust you on that. Lol
I kinda meant if 2 people with equal skill, but one were to use a shotgun vs your standard m4 aeg or w.e, the shotgun would not be as effective.
But it is more based on the user than the weapon in the end i guess :O

[ThunderCactus]

I was thinking about it, but the only practical CQB use I could think of was if it used the airsoftsurgeon buckshot shells. But after having to deal with an M203, I don't wanna have anything to do with gas powered shells anymore lol

If anyone is interested in mounting a shotgun to a railed M4 though, I'm willing to do the mod. Removing the grip and professionally fabricating a mount for it.

And if you find your M4 is too heavy, it just means you don't exercise enough

[vondnik]

At 16 pounds without the nigth vision scope she was a bitch to carry. Specialy since all the weight was in front. Next time I'm going to use a gas shotty modified to run on co2.... Mounted to the underside of a ris all metal m4. Also will run a full stock to move the 12 volt battery to the rear.... Yeah she was running off a 12 volt battery in fixed in the gun.

[Penguin]

It's not an M4 with a shotgun you need.....

[Covax]

Yeah we mounted a cheep springer shotgun to an already heavily ‘punked’ up electric M4 as a film prop. I told people repeatedly ‘don’t pump the shotgun. Do everything else but don’t pump the shotgun’. Guess what, some nitwit actor/actress pumps the shotgun and the whole thing rips off.

Ended up having to gaff-tape the thing back on. Didn’t harm the overall aesthetics, but damn it…

[Drake]

Looks aside, it's a cumbersome and impractical setup. There's a reason you don't see pics of real operators using it -- preferring instead to carry a separate shotgun.

[surebet]

Originally Posted by Drake

Looks aside, it's a cumbersome and impractical setup. There's a reason you don't see pics of real operators using it -- preferring instead to carry a separate shotgun.

I've seen a few swat pictures, because the only practical use for this anyway would be real fast door breaching. Might as well send a quick succession of 5.56s (or other) in the face of the guy you already have your assault riffle pointed at.

[vondnik]

Originally Posted by surebet

I've seen a few swat pictures, because the only practical use for this anyway would be real fast door breaching. Might as well send a quick succession of 5.56s (or other) in the face of the guy you already have your assault riffle pointed at.

And that is why they call it a masterkey....

[TaroBear]

Dunno if this is against the rules, but I'll remove it if an admin brings the pain down on me. I'm basically reviving my project to mount a shotgun to a rail. I need help, though. I figure people interested in the topic might be able to assist me. I'm planning to make it rail mounted to a rifle (hopefully several) so that it's not just an AR thing. I have the shotgun, and the tools. I just need a way to actually get it onto the rail. Here's where you guys come in. I need a part, ANYTHING, that is rail mounted to cannibalize. I basically can't find a rail mount anywhere. So my plan is to saw the rail mount off of a broken accessory, weld it onto the shotgun, so it can screw onto the rifle.

Here's the WTB thread:

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...86#post1562486

Come on guys. I plan to share the schematics if it works. Looking for a donor. I know people have all sorts of crap sitting around that doesn't work.

[Kos-Mos]

You know that you don't need to weld anything right?

You just need a shotgun with a top rail...

And salvage the "loose" side of any scope ring + a screw.

You basically clamp both rails together with the screw and a "loose" clamp on each side...

So 4x cheap ass scope rings from CT will do the trick.

[TaroBear]

Originally Posted by Kos-Mos

You know that you don't need to weld anything right?

You just need a shotgun with a top rail...

And salvage the "loose" side of any scope ring + a screw.

You basically clamp both rails together with the screw and a "loose" clamp on each side...

So 4x cheap ass scope rings from CT will do the trick.

The shotgun doesn't have a top rail, is the thing.

[ThunderCactus]

K, I'll bite, PM me the details, what kind of shotgun etc.
I'll find a way to attach the rail mounts to the shotgun. Unfortunately welding isn't even possible since airsoft guns aren't made of real metals lol

[Kos-Mos]

Originally Posted by TaroBear

The shotgun doesn't have a top rail, is the thing.

If its a plastic shotgun, you can probably open it and screw a rail on the top from the inside. MOE plastic rails are great because you can simply drill them and use self-tapping screws.

If the gun is metal, still disassemble it, but just to make sure there is nothing in the way inside and to clean the metal dust from drilling/tapping the holes for a G36C rail.

[TaroBear]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

K, I'll bite, PM me the details, what kind of shotgun etc.
I'll find a way to attach the rail mounts to the shotgun. Unfortunately welding isn't even possible since airsoft guns aren't made of real metals lol

PM sent your way

Originally Posted by Kos-Mos

If its a plastic shotgun, you can probably open it and screw a rail on the top from the inside. MOE plastic rails are great because you can simply drill them and use self-tapping screws.

If the gun is metal, still disassemble it, but just to make sure there is nothing in the way inside and to clean the metal dust from drilling/tapping the holes for a G36C rail.

I plan to go with the drilling route if I can't round up donor parts. Obviously I think the donor part way is much neater looking, but it's I'll drill if I need to.