Where do you play CQB?

[grimreefer]

Like the titles says, I'd like to know how you guys play your indoor CQB games.

I'd love to be able to rent out a warehouse or something where we could get together for some battles. Anyone ever do something like that?

[Muffin]

Xtreme Tactics here in Winnipeg.

[Jiggiwatt]

Out East we have 'the Mill' which is basically an abandoned paper mill. It's VERY big. I'd be curious to know what the square footage is. There's 2 stories of offices, and 2 other floors of very large rooms and off to one side is a paintball area. It's about 200 meters x 150 meters for 2 floors + basement (not used) and about 80 metres x 150 metres for the top 2 floors which is the office space.

Here's some pics :http://www.pbase.com/chef40/cure&page=all
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=53998

And video :

YouTube - The Mill Febuary 16/08

[grimreefer]

Originally Posted by Jiggiwatt

Out East we have 'the Mill' which is basically an abandoned paper mill. It's VERY big. I'd be curious to know what the square footage is. There's 2 stories of offices, and 2 other floors of very large rooms and off to one side is a paintball area. It's about 200 meters x 150 meters for 2 floors + basement (not used) and about 80 metres x 150 metres for the top 2 floors which is the office space.

Here's some pics :http://www.pbase.com/chef40/cure&page=all
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=53998

And video :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4rrhTnMuqM

That's awesome! Do you guys have the permission of the property owners?

[Bowers]

to the best of my knowledge no cqb stuff out here in the maritimes

[Moderate]

Originally Posted by grimreefer

That's awesome! Do you guys have the permission of the property owners?

The owner usually attends games as an admin, but sometimes I think he even plays

Awesome indoor field, well worth the 2hr drive to get there from Ottawa.

[TokyoSeven]

We have a couple of places to play CQB in Melville Sask, a school and a hospital. Both Run by Camogames.

[jameskersten]

Nothing available that I am aware of here in Victoria. There was one person who played with us once mentioned he had something lined up but we haven't heard anything since.

[BBS]

Here in BC, there was a decommissioned ferry, in which we can play on. Right now, there is an indoor area to play games in Richmond, BC. That place is called AK and it was originally for paintballing. The owner is trying to get the license to change it to an airsoft area. Not sure if AK is open yet... Finally I've heard of some place in the lower mainland where you can play cqb in a tower?

[grimreefer]

Originally Posted by jameskersten

Nothing available that I am aware of here in Victoria. There was one person who played with us once mentioned he had something lined up but we haven't heard anything since.

Okay, so then what's the plan for getting one?

[TokyoSeven]

I had always considered the idea of renting a warehouse to play, splitting the costs with others. If there was a large enough population of airsofts it would be considerable, however for me in my city its not. Cost of renting was the smallest of the issues though, approaching anyone with a proposal to rent and then attempting to explain to them the premise on which why you want to rent it can sometimes get you a flat out no as well. One can only imagine what can happen in airsoft, walls get broken,, windows get shot up,other stuff gets shot up....in some instances even blown up. After that theres insurance. Thats what really put me off, I checked with a few brokerages in regards to setting up insurance for something like that and they refered me to a small handful of companies that specialise in insurance for things like airsoft, but well more specifically paintball. We reviewed policeys and coverage and the recommended liability was suggested to be 5 million at minimum. Total cost for a year was over 3000 dollars. Sure you can skip over insurance, but you never know what can happen. The guys you play with may seem like a good bunch that would never sue you for anything but all that can change when someone loses a testicle...or a spleen.

[six4]

Originally Posted by BBS

Here in BC, there was a decommissioned ferry, in which we can play on. Right now, there is an indoor area to play games in Richmond, BC. That place is called AK and it was originally for paintballing. The owner is trying to get the license to change it to an airsoft area. Not sure if AK is open yet... Finally I've heard of some place in the lower mainland where you can play cqb in a tower?

the kill tower you speak of was in abbotsford b.c. due to safety issues and some health issues the games at this location were quickly abandoned. this was over two years ago. after the kill tower there was the ferryboat here in mission b.c. it is the decommisioned "queen of sidney" that ran for the better part of a year and a half. there are still sporadic battles at this location but nothing like it used to be.

here are two of my videos from the most recent games i ran at the ferryboat.

day game:
http://files.filefront.com/rainbowsi.../fileinfo.html

night game:
http://files.filefront.com/fear+of+t.../fileinfo.html


the ferryboat has its fair share of health issues. sadly due to black mold,mildew,and general dry rot this is the only way i can be on the ferryboat for any length of time.



like i said ,games are still held here but they are few and far between.


as far as i know there are no other cqb areas in my region.

[grimreefer]

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven

I had always considered the idea of renting a warehouse to play, splitting the costs with others. If there was a large enough population of airsofts it would be considerable, however for me in my city its not. Cost of renting was the smallest of the issues though, approaching anyone with a proposal to rent and then attempting to explain to them the premise on which why you want to rent it can sometimes get you a flat out no as well. One can only imagine what can happen in airsoft, walls get broken,, windows get shot up,other stuff gets shot up....in some instances even blown up. After that theres insurance. Thats what really put me off, I checked with a few brokerages in regards to setting up insurance for something like that and they refered me to a small handful of companies that specialise in insurance for things like airsoft, but well more specifically paintball. We reviewed policeys and coverage and the recommended liability was suggested to be 5 million at minimum. Total cost for a year was over 3000 dollars. Sure you can skip over insurance, but you never know what can happen. The guys you play with may seem like a good bunch that would never sue you for anything but all that can change when someone loses a testicle...or a spleen.

Or an eye.

You bring up a good point. The major obstacle is liability and insurance. A lot of people would not volunteer their property for people to risk injury, without insurance. But $3000 a year doesn't sound terrible.

I'm curious to know if the owner of 'the mill' has insurance of some sort? And what fees are charged to the players, if any?

[TokyoSeven]

Another hump was approval for insurance as well, just because an application was submitted does not mean it would be approved.

[jameskersten]

Originally Posted by grimreefer

Okay, so then what's the plan for getting one?

honestly, we dont have any plans to get one. But if you have something in mind that can match VFGPA grounds in terms of facilties and insurances, etc, have at her and let us know!