Madbull Noveske Keymod rails

SuperHog · February 3rd, 2014, 11:35

Re: Madbull Noveske NSR keymod rails

http://madbull.com/catalog/index.php...roducts_id=606

Are these rails using RS Keymod specifications. The ad says modified for airsoft???

redneck12 · February 3rd, 2014, 14:47

From what I understand the majority of the Keymod rails for airsoft are not RS spec. If it's RS spec there should be a bevel on the backside of each Keymod hole. I haven't handled a Madbull rail so I can only go by what I have read and seen on Youtube which is PTS is the only ones making a true RS spec'd Keymod rail.

SuperHog · February 5th, 2014, 18:04

The other question is, will RS accessories for RS keymod rails fit onto airsoft keymod rails? What's the reason for the incompatibility?

Picatinny rails were the same for both airsoft and RS...

Stealth · February 5th, 2014, 18:19

Depends on the accessory - I have an HSP Thorntail Keymod mount on my Dytac URX4 and it works great. NSR plastic rail panels however - do not work.

The screw-down accessories usually work fine - at least for Dytac Keymod products anyway.

SuperHog · February 5th, 2014, 19:08

So I guess the Noveske Rifleworks NSR KEYMOD Polymer Rail Panel Set won't work on a Noveske Keymod rail by Madbull?

Stealth · February 5th, 2014, 19:58

That... I don't know and the fitment depends entirely on the thickness of the rail. The Keymod specification requires a specific maximum wall thickness for those panels to work.

SuperHog · February 5th, 2014, 20:16

I wonder if the Madbull Strike megafins rail is made to RS specs?

SuperHog · February 5th, 2014, 21:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by redneck12

From what I understand the majority of the Keymod rails for airsoft are not RS spec. If it's RS spec there should be a bevel on the backside of each Keymod hole. I haven't handled a Madbull rail so I can only go by what I have read and seen on Youtube which is PTS is the only ones making a true RS spec'd Keymod rail.

I may just pick up PTS Mega Arms MKM LM4. That thing is nice.

redneck12 · February 5th, 2014, 21:52

They will be selling the rails separately, I have my eye on the Centurion Arms CMR for my WE M4.

SuperHog · February 5th, 2014, 21:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by redneck12

They will be selling the rails separately, I have my eye on the Centurion Arms CMR for my WE M4.

I may be wrong, but the PTS Key Mod rails are custom fitted to Mega MKM LM4 upper receiver and probably won't fit on a AEG/PTW.

Drake · February 5th, 2014, 22:06

I suspect the off-spec specs are a requirement from Noveske so people don't use the airsoft version on RS (I've read of people doing it), but if RS keymod accessories won't be compatible, unless Madbull is putting them out at a similar quality and much lower price, I suspect it'll be a deal breaker for most people -- and they'll simply wait to get the unlicensed RS spec Chinese knockoffs.

redneck12 · February 5th, 2014, 22:07

I am not a fan of the over all looks of the Key Mod rail, so until a sexy Key Mod rail comes out no Key Mod on my M4. I do like the idea of all the direct attach accessories coming out for the KM system, doing away with the need for extra rails altogether. But from my understanding the Mega Arms rifle has a proprietary rail so it flows with the receiver, but they are coming out with a generic Key Mod rail for standard M4's.

redneck12 · February 5th, 2014, 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake

I suspect the off-spec specs are a requirement from Noveske so people don't use the airsoft version on RS (I've read of people doing it), but if RS keymod accessories won't be compatible, unless Madbull is putting them out at a similar quality and much lower price, I suspect it'll be a deal breaker for most people -- and they'll simply wait to get the unlicensed RS spec Chinese knockoffs.

Noveske can't really do anything besides stopping them from using the Noveske name and logo. Key Mod is an open source design anyone and everyone can use it free of licensing worries. But like you said it's probably an agreement between Madbull and Noveske to avoid legal isssues and get the name on their rail.

SuperHog · February 5th, 2014, 22:31

I would rather Madbull put out a RS spec KM rail and just block the gas block feature so airsofters would benefit.

redneck12 · February 5th, 2014, 23:16

The blocked gas tube is why I didn't like the TRX so much, killed the realism GBBRs without the gas tube is just wrong IMHO. If they did something easily modded like they did with the DD MK series and just filled the hole which was easily drilled out. That way its a user mod and they are free of liabilities.

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February 5th, 2014, 22:06	#11
Drake E-01 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montreal, QC	I suspect the off-spec specs are a requirement from Noveske so people don't use the airsoft version on RS (I've read of people doing it), but if RS keymod accessories won't be compatible, unless Madbull is putting them out at a similar quality and much lower price, I suspect it'll be a deal breaker for most people -- and they'll simply wait to get the unlicensed RS spec Chinese knockoffs. __________________

February 3rd, 2014, 14:47	#2
redneck12 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Peterborough	From what I understand the majority of the Keymod rails for airsoft are not RS spec. If it's RS spec there should be a bevel on the backside of each Keymod hole. I haven't handled a Madbull rail so I can only go by what I have read and seen on Youtube which is PTS is the only ones making a true RS spec'd Keymod rail.

February 5th, 2014, 18:04	#3
SuperHog Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Toronto, Ontario	The other question is, will RS accessories for RS keymod rails fit onto airsoft keymod rails? What's the reason for the incompatibility? Picatinny rails were the same for both airsoft and RS...

February 5th, 2014, 18:19	#4
Stealth Mr. Silencer Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto	Depends on the accessory - I have an HSP Thorntail Keymod mount on my Dytac URX4 and it works great. NSR plastic rail panels however - do not work. The screw-down accessories usually work fine - at least for Dytac Keymod products anyway.

February 5th, 2014, 19:58	#6
Stealth Mr. Silencer Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto	That... I don't know and the fitment depends entirely on the thickness of the rail. The Keymod specification requires a specific maximum wall thickness for those panels to work.

February 5th, 2014, 21:52	#9
redneck12 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Peterborough	They will be selling the rails separately, I have my eye on the Centurion Arms CMR for my WE M4.

February 5th, 2014, 22:07	#12
redneck12 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Peterborough	I am not a fan of the over all looks of the Key Mod rail, so until a sexy Key Mod rail comes out no Key Mod on my M4. I do like the idea of all the direct attach accessories coming out for the KM system, doing away with the need for extra rails altogether. But from my understanding the Mega Arms rifle has a proprietary rail so it flows with the receiver, but they are coming out with a generic Key Mod rail for standard M4's.

February 5th, 2014, 22:31	#14
SuperHog Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Toronto, Ontario	I would rather Madbull put out a RS spec KM rail and just block the gas block feature so airsofters would benefit.

February 5th, 2014, 23:16	#15
redneck12 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Peterborough	The blocked gas tube is why I didn't like the TRX so much, killed the realism GBBRs without the gas tube is just wrong IMHO. If they did something easily modded like they did with the DD MK series and just filled the hole which was easily drilled out. That way its a user mod and they are free of liabilities.

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