Reliable build questions.

[Chromey]

I have a Older G@G M4 that is in the need of some work.
The Gun still fires great, But the piston is showing signs of heavy wear.

The gun is 100% stock.
Its shooting 375-380 now.
Im not looking for a faster then stock gun, Or even really upgrading, Im looking for reliability, And replacing warn parts.
I use 9.6 batteries

Should I just replace the piston or should I build it up more.

Im open too anything helpful.

[Stealth]

Originally Posted by Chromey

Should I just replace the piston or should I build it up more.

Originally Posted by Chromey

Im not looking for a faster then stock gun, Or even really upgrading

What.

[Adamlxlx]

Probably just needs some aoe correction and a new piston.

[K3vX]

One needs to know the difference between reliability and performance.

[ThunderCactus]

reliability and upgrading are one in the same
you can get amazing performance with reliable parts
the only really limiting factor in reliability is your RoF, and if you're under 1500rpm then it's typically not a problem for any parts.

[K3vX]

You can make any AEG reliable with minimal parts swapping and investment. Actually, just opening the rifle and performing some free* maintenance mods can make a good difference. It'll probably make it perform better at the same time. You also can pour cash into countless upgrades and get a unreliable rifle that will fail you pretty quick.

They're not mutually exclusive, but they're certainly not the same thing. Someone who knows what they're doing will make any rifle reliable, upgrades or not (replacing needy parts like the OP's piston is not necessarily an upgrade in the same way that a new neo motor is). Someone who doesn't can make 200$ worth of upgrades look like a joke.

Of course, pair a good tech with good parts and you get a solid rifle.

[Chromey]

Ill do the work my self.
Having a reliable gun is key, Upgrading is not. If that means installing OEM parts then so be it.
Performance wise, Im more then happy with the way this gun shoots.



Adamlxlx, Thanks for helpful advice, Ill open my box again and check the AOE. Is it suppose too be facing 1:00O-clock?
What Piston would you suggest on a Stock motor and Stock spring?

[localfreerider]

Thread jack!
What I wanna know is: what did you do to get that uber cool pink label under your name?

[EchoFourTwelve]

Originally Posted by localfreerider

Thread jack!
What I wanna know is: what did you do to get that uber cool pink label under your name?

if i remember correctly it comes from this.
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=159069

[localfreerider]

Smooth! well, welcome to ASC

(Edit) well after browsing that post I now have another question, WTF is Prancercise? and where do I sign up!

[Ricochet]

Reliability and upgrading are often the same indeed. Every brand has its ups and downs, sometimes it's modding, upgrading, performance, etc. A reliable out-of-the-box gun, is reliable for what exactly? The odd short range indoor skirmish? If the gun breaks down, it's no good, if it doesn't shoot straight , it's no good. It all comes down to what you want out of it. The key with upgrading, is it often chains parts together. Once you replace one thing, you may need replace others to handle the new specs. If it is simply a matter of your gun just running, then replace what you need, when you need to, and perform regular maintenance.

[GBBR]

Originally Posted by localfreerider

Smooth! well, welcome to ASC

(Edit) well after browsing that post I now have another question, WTF is Prancercise? and where do I sign up!

More thread jack.

I've had

I <3 TYGR701 ( NOT IN WORDS BUT IN A PICTURE)

Deltastone's bitch

I'm sexy and I know it

Breaker of all things airsoft

I'm FGT and I know it

and now its " all my toys are sticky"



Now, back on topic, chromey, last I recall making a gun more reliable was technically upgrading the gun. making the gun better in ANYWAY is considered upgrading it, because yknow the grade is being upped :P

[ccyg8774]

Originally Posted by GBBR

More thread jack.

I've had

I <3 TYGR701 ( NOT IN WORDS BUT IN A PICTURE)

Deltastone's bitch

I'm sexy and I know it

Breaker of all things airsoft

I'm FGT and I know it

and now its " all my toys are sticky"

Which one(s) are actualy the ones you pick? (Rather than admins joking with you.)

[K3vX]

Well, maybe it's due to my French perception of the word reliable, but for me it means "something that will not fail". In this regard, I consider a rifle with poor accuracy that can shoot 10.000.000 rounds a lot more reliable than a really precise AEG that will fail after 5.000 rounds. A reliable AND upgraded rifle would shoot well AND hold that reliability for an extremely long time. I'll retract my previous statement if no one else thinks like me.

[ThunderCactus]

^ my M249 out ranges most AEG's, shoots 380fps at 1500rpm, and has not had a SINGLE mechbox failure in 6 years.
It's had box mag jams, and last year the motor comm finally became so dirty that it stopped working, but zero internal mechbox failures.

I've also built other AEG's of similar performance that lasted no less than 3 seasons

Also, PTW's, once the motor is fixed, commonly run for years at a time with fantastic performance.

It really comes down to the gun doc. If they don't know what they're doing or aren't mechanically inclined then things will go wrong.

The primary three reasons for failure are;
1) wrong BBs
2) batteries that are way too powerful
3) running too high fps for the setup

you can run a gun reliably at 470fps for years, but it requires the right parts and the right operator.