WE AWSS random jam

Silenc3 · October 9th, 2012, 03:34

Hi all..just registered and right here to ask for help..
I got a WE AWSS hk416.. There was some problem of jamming the gun randomly, i disassembled and checked everything.. find some rough edges on the brass tube tearing the bigger nozzle oring so smoothed the edges, changed the oring (7mmx1,5mm viton oring) , checked chamber, cleaned and lubed what needed..
yesterday tried another time and still got some problems.. shooting in semi works good... (sometimes happen that "pops" but without ejecting the bb.. so next shoot.. it shoots 2 bbs. but this is rare.
When in full auto it's a disaster.. shot 1 bb then no bb for 3..4shots and then 4bbs togheter.. sometimes it shoots broken bbs...
when was new i used to shoot in full autowith no problems.. then one day started to have problems.
i searched the forum and the internet but none of the solutions found worked!
bbs are light royal 0.23 (i'm looking for some 0.3 but i can't find easily here) and i use green gas..
anyone can help??
thanks in advance

coach · October 9th, 2012, 08:04

Light royal BB's? Have you tried other BB's? Try some bastards!

Btw, there is a huge thread for WE AWSS GBBR's.

Silenc3 · October 9th, 2012, 08:15

Thank you for the answer! I know the thread and found someuseful infos but nothing to solve my problem! I am aboutto try some other bbs.. Until now royal .23 were the only kind available

now I found a jar of umarex .30 that ill buy saturday. Do you think could be a bb problem?! Inside everything seems perfect.. And i read here that kind of guns may be not precise in shooting but are workhorses.. So i think there must be some thing stupid hapening to my rifle.. Any other help is really appreciated!

coach · October 9th, 2012, 09:41

www.bbbastard.com

Silenc3 · October 9th, 2012, 14:10

the problem is to find them!

where i live no one got them.. and buying overseas is long and expensive due to shipping + customs..

audi_bhoy · October 9th, 2012, 18:15

A location more precise than "In my workshop" would help us spoonfeed you... If you're in Canada, plenty of retailers have quality BBs in stock...

Silenc3 · October 9th, 2012, 18:50

sorry... i wrote it in my introduction post but forgot to change that temporary "in my workshop" with correct location... anyway I live in the far europe.. in italy to be precise.. I'm writing here because I think it's the more "plenty of information" community

before registering I've been reading the thread pointed out by coach so many times..

Brian McIlmoyle · October 9th, 2012, 18:59

LUBE.. the AWSS system needs to be well lubricated .. also it prefers premium BBs of Minimum .28G weight.

I run Light weight Silicon Oil in the gas .. and my guns run like a top

Silenc3 · October 9th, 2012, 19:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle

LUBE.. the AWSS system needs to be well lubricated .. also it prefers premium BBs of Minimum .28G weight.

Thank you brian for the answer, my rifle is very well lubricated (found that on the famous awss thread too) and about the bbs.. then the problem could be that like i guessed... a few more days and I'll have some .30g to try.. I'll surely let you know! Thanks

Huron · October 9th, 2012, 21:38

Fire until you experience the misfeed, then pop open the receiver and push a cleaning rod gently down the chamber and see how many BBs fall out.

Kos-Mos · October 10th, 2012, 03:05

Hmm... surprizing how no one mentionned the possibility of a crushed nozzle...

Look carefully at the 3 pillars that are around the valve... they should be perfectly in axis and smooth. If they look to be twisted, there is your problem... It causes a bad air seal, which in turn allows for the rocket valve to close and fail to fire. It is less proheminent in semi-auto because the rubber has time to settle and make a better seal.

Silenc3 · October 10th, 2012, 03:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by GabeGuitarded

Fire until you experience the misfeed, then pop open the receiver and push a cleaning rod gently down the chamber and see how many BBs fall out.

I've made this test the other day, in full auto happened to find (some fall out right out the barrel themselves tilting the rifle) 4 to 5 bbs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kos-Mos

Hmm... surprizing how no one mentionned the possibility of a crushed nozzle...

Look carefully at the 3 pillars that are around the valve... they should be perfectly in axis and smooth. If they look to be twisted, there is your problem... It causes a bad air seal, which in turn allows for the rocket valve to close and fail to fire. It is less proheminent in semi-auto because the rubber has time to settle and make a better seal.

the other day when I changed the 7x1,5mm nozzle o-ring the nozzle seemed in good shape, but after reading your post this evening after work I'll surely give it a closer look to confirm if it's good or bad.

Silenc3 · October 10th, 2012, 15:08

Just checked, the nozzle is perfect.

Silenc3 · October 13th, 2012, 14:28

today I've fired some rounds (about a couple of mags) of my new 0.30 bbs and seems no more jams.. flawless semi and flawless full auto

New BBs seems to have also cured the trajectory, little error on a target at about 20 mt.. so pretty much satisfied!!

my rifle started a new life!

GBBR · October 14th, 2012, 01:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silenc3

today I've fired some rounds (about a couple of mags) of my new 0.30 bbs and seems no more jams.. flawless semi and flawless full auto

New BBs seems to have also cured the trajectory, little error on a target at about 20 mt.. so pretty much satisfied!!

my rifle started a new life!

lol what where you using before .12 walmart brand?

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October 9th, 2012, 03:34	#1
Silenc3 Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Europe, Italy	WE AWSS random jam Hi all..just registered and right here to ask for help.. I got a WE AWSS hk416.. There was some problem of jamming the gun randomly, i disassembled and checked everything.. find some rough edges on the brass tube tearing the bigger nozzle oring so smoothed the edges, changed the oring (7mmx1,5mm viton oring) , checked chamber, cleaned and lubed what needed.. yesterday tried another time and still got some problems.. shooting in semi works good... (sometimes happen that "pops" but without ejecting the bb.. so next shoot.. it shoots 2 bbs. but this is rare. When in full auto it's a disaster.. shot 1 bb then no bb for 3..4shots and then 4bbs togheter.. sometimes it shoots broken bbs... when was new i used to shoot in full autowith no problems.. then one day started to have problems. i searched the forum and the internet but none of the solutions found worked! bbs are light royal 0.23 (i'm looking for some 0.3 but i can't find easily here) and i use green gas.. anyone can help?? thanks in advance

October 9th, 2012, 18:59	#8
Brian McIlmoyle 8=======D Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto	LUBE.. the AWSS system needs to be well lubricated .. also it prefers premium BBs of Minimum .28G weight. I run Light weight Silicon Oil in the gas .. and my guns run like a top __________________ Brian McIlmoyle TTAC3 Director CAPS Range Officer Toronto Downtown Age Verifier OPERATION WOODSMAN If the tongue could cut as the sword does, the dead would be infinite

October 9th, 2012, 08:04	#2
coach aka coachster Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: T dot	Light royal BB's? Have you tried other BB's? Try some bastards! Btw, there is a huge thread for WE AWSS GBBR's.

October 9th, 2012, 08:15	#3
Silenc3 Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Europe, Italy	Thank you for the answer! I know the thread and found someuseful infos but nothing to solve my problem! I am aboutto try some other bbs.. Until now royal .23 were the only kind available now I found a jar of umarex .30 that ill buy saturday. Do you think could be a bb problem?! Inside everything seems perfect.. And i read here that kind of guns may be not precise in shooting but are workhorses.. So i think there must be some thing stupid hapening to my rifle.. Any other help is really appreciated!

October 9th, 2012, 09:41	#4
coach aka coachster Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: T dot	www.bbbastard.com

October 9th, 2012, 14:10	#5
Silenc3 Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Europe, Italy	the problem is to find them! where i live no one got them.. and buying overseas is long and expensive due to shipping + customs..

October 9th, 2012, 18:15	#6
audi_bhoy Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Trois-Rivières	A location more precise than "In my workshop" would help us spoonfeed you... If you're in Canada, plenty of retailers have quality BBs in stock...

October 9th, 2012, 18:50	#7
Silenc3 Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Europe, Italy	sorry... i wrote it in my introduction post but forgot to change that temporary "in my workshop" with correct location... anyway I live in the far europe.. in italy to be precise.. I'm writing here because I think it's the more "plenty of information" community before registering I've been reading the thread pointed out by coach so many times..

October 9th, 2012, 21:38	#10
Huron GabeGuitarded Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Toronto, ON	Fire until you experience the misfeed, then pop open the receiver and push a cleaning rod gently down the chamber and see how many BBs fall out.

October 10th, 2012, 15:08	#13
Silenc3 Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Europe, Italy	Just checked, the nozzle is perfect.

October 13th, 2012, 14:28	#14
Silenc3 Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Europe, Italy	today I've fired some rounds (about a couple of mags) of my new 0.30 bbs and seems no more jams.. flawless semi and flawless full auto New BBs seems to have also cured the trajectory, little error on a target at about 20 mt.. so pretty much satisfied!! my rifle started a new life!

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