guarder 150% hammer spring (Tm glock 17)

[spartan117]

Hi guys! My TM glock 17's slide action was very smooth but after i installed the guarder 150% spring, the slide started to catch on the hammer. Is there anyway to remedy this problem? Any help would be great. Thanks!

Regards,
Jeff

[Styrak]

First and most important question: Why did you install a 150% hammer spring?

[spartan117]

Originally Posted by Styrak

First and most important question: Why did you install a 150% hammer spring?

The guys at airsoft gear said i needed it because the stock hammer spring is too weak to use during the summer with propane/green gas. I'm planning to reinstall the stock spring.

[cadpat_tact]

150% Recoil Spring for Marui Glock 17 - YouTube

Watched that vid before I bought my TM Glock 17, just in case I chose to upgrade it. Hope it helps.

[Reckless]

... how does a recoil spring help in a thread about a HAMMER spring? ...

just asking?

[cadpat_tact]

Originally Posted by Reckless

... how does a recoil spring help in a thread about a HAMMER spring? ...

just asking?

My mistake, I misunderstood the issue. I'm not too knowledgeable with GBB internals, just thought I'd contribute something that might possibly help the OP.

No need for all the ...'s

[spartan117]

Originally Posted by cadpat_tact

My mistake, I misunderstood the issue. I'm not too knowledgeable with GBB internals, just thought I'd contribute something that might possibly help the OP.

No need for all the ...'s

It did help Thanks Cadpat. The guy in the vid mentions how the hammer spring is actually NOT NEEDED and that the stock spring is enough to run green gas.

[L473ncy]

This might be older knowledge that pertains to older generations of guns but I was always under the impression that a harder (or rather what's marketed as an "enhanced") hammer spring would be more "consistent" in hitting the knocker that hits the valve on the mag letting it open up for a similar amount of time each and every shot.

I've always heard that using duster gas without an upgraded hammer spring it's fine but once you introduce gasses under higher pressure (eg. Propane/Green/Top/Red gas) especially in the summer, that's when you need an enhanced hammer spring to keep it consistent.

Anyways, that's the extent of my knowledge on the subject of the hammer spring in a GBB.

PS: As for the upgraded recoil spring, it will make the slide return faster, AFAIK this raises gas efficiency slightly and is supposedly a "necessary" upgrade when you upgrade to metal slides.

[Lycanthrope]

I'm not sure what the problem is, however if this helps at all, I've also heard that it is better to use an enhanced hammer spring with higher pressure gases. I'm not sure if you have an enhanced recoil spring yet, however if you don't I would recommend that you get one as it gives you a faster and crisper recoil in my opinion.

[RacingManiac]

Originally Posted by spartan117

It did help Thanks Cadpat. The guy in the vid mentions how the hammer spring is actually NOT NEEDED and that the stock spring is enough to run green gas.

Its fine if the temp is low. The stock hammer spring give way to light strike when you get enough pressure to your mag(new bottle of propane, higher room temp(closer to 20C), extended mag...

I've ended up upgraded hammer spring in all 3 of my TM Glock(26, 17 and 18) as all in the beginning seems to run fine but eventually when you get the pressure up enough(doesn't take much) they all start to light strike....

[ILLusion]

The Tokyo Marui Glock series is particularly prone to light strikes when using propane. In my experience, it's highly recommended to upgrade to a stronger hammer spring from the start.

[Shirley]

Seeing from Spartans other posts.
He has upgraded his slide to metal.

So upgrading the recoil spring and hammer spring as said above is important.

[spartan117]

Originally Posted by RacingManiac

Its fine if the temp is low. The stock hammer spring give way to light strike when you get enough pressure to your mag(new bottle of propane, higher room temp(closer to 20C), extended mag...

I've ended up upgraded hammer spring in all 3 of my TM Glock(26, 17 and 18) as all in the beginning seems to run fine but eventually when you get the pressure up enough(doesn't take much) they all start to light strike....

What brand if your hammer spring? The guarder one isn't too good.

Originally Posted by Mr.Hitman

Seeing from Spartans other posts.
He has upgraded his slide to metal.

So upgrading the recoil spring and hammer spring as said above is important.

I've already upgraded the recoil spring. I wanted to keep the guarder 150% hammer spring but the action was just too stiff. I'm still trying to find a way to fix that problem.

[ILLusion]

The Guns Modify Zero Hammer is great at reducing restriction on the forward cycle of the slide. You didn't mention on which portion of the stroke the slide was catching, but if it's the forward stroke, this product will solve your issue.

[spartan117]

Originally Posted by ILLusion

The Guns Modify Zero Hammer is great at reducing restriction on the forward cycle of the slide.

yea i've been looking at that as well but i wasn't sure if it was good or not. Maybe i'll pick that up instead of the shooters design 150% hammer spring.

I do believe its the forward stroke (when the slide goes back into battery) the bearing is contacting the bottom of the blowback unit a bit harder than when the stock hammer spring was installed.