Which M4

[millergoodcall2]

I'm looking to getting my first m4, ever. I'm looking mostly at the jg enhanced version but I have heard the g&g combat machine is the best. I want a gun that is closest to tm so once I learn about it more I can get a metal body and what not. Can anyone help me out?

[TokyoSeven]

Well if you intend to purchase a metal body down the road, then why not just purchase a TM off the start?

Personal preference I would choose JG over G&G but like I said that is a personal choice.

[Spike]

My vote would also go to the JG. G&G's combat machine line are their lowest models, and G&G has a lot of proprietary parts.

[apparition]

your profile says you live in the states, why not just get a high quality gun with a full metal body. It wont cost you to much more then gettin a G&G or JG at least from what i can tell with US prices on airsoft.

[millergoodcall2]

Originally Posted by apparition

your profile says you live in the states, why not just get a high quality gun with a full metal body. It wont cost you to much more then gettin a G&G or JG at least from what i can tell with US prices on airsoft.

Well my only option really is the stag arms m4 which is about 200, I cannot go over that, not even a little bit lol. Plus I'm talking about metal body with ENGRAVED colt trademarks, I haven't found any of those...

[Spike]

G&P bodies have engraved trademarks, so to King Arms bodies. Both companies make full guns.

[burningashes]

Youre in the states, so buy Tokyo Marui. Then you can upgrade to a metal body of your choice. Look up online retailers.

[phloudernow]

If your looking for a good entry level AEG, to build up from under 200USD and you want it full metal ill suggest the Deep Fire Silver series,

All guns on the market are TM compatible these days, all use the standard Ver.2 Gearbox so i wouldnt suggest TM, plus for the price of a TM gun you can get a way better Rifle, the basic Model for a TM M4A1 is about 350 USD or so, however its not full metal and comes with a Piece of Crap gearbox, the King Arms makes a Full Metal M4A1 for Cheaper and comes with a 7mm Bearing Gearbox and it goes for? 215 USD so pretty much no point buying a TM as they are ridiculously expensive now and there are better and cheaper alternatives oh and lets see there are so many guns, that come with Rail Systems such as the Larue 7,9,12 inch by King arms are what oh the same price 350 as the TM base model m4, but its FULL METAL!!!!!! yayyyyy

End of story, TM sucks G&P and King Arms makes the best Stock AEGs on the Market now adays

NOTE THIS IS NOT TO CANADIAN AIRSOFTERS BUT TO ALL ALL OTHER AIRSOFTERS IN COUNTRIES WHERE AIRSOFT IS LEGAL TO BE IMPORTED

Ok so lets go on to JG guns, JG guns have no markings and the ones with markings have poor quality markings, Full metal yes for around 160 bucks for the standard M4A1 with crappy JG markings, then you gota deal with the crappy internals, wont be as durable as King Arms or G&P, or CA for that matter and i hate CA guns dont ask me why would be A 10 page essay on why i hate CA but anywayyy JG might be a marui "Clone" but poorly made, internals come with car grease inside that is green and gooey and disgusting, I have opened so many ACM ver.2 Gearboxes its not funny, some are better than others but some are just disgusting and yeah pretty much they suck dont run well, compared to your other Better AEGs, K im just gona stop QQING about china guns now and go on to what i suggest this guy

Deep fire makes high end AEGs

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...ver_Series.htm

Deep Fire offers their new Silver Series as an entry into the economical end of the market. By offering this tier of weapon, the internal parts manufacturer that is Deep Fire offers you a quality entry level M4 for a very reasonable price. The internals are almost the same as their more expensive rifles.

All Deepfire internals with copper inner barrel (363mm), steel gears, full teeth piston (DF-CPP01), Aluminium POM Cylinder Head V.I and metal spring guide. Delivering 330 fps out of the box it is upgradable with standard springs, the metal piston head is capable of withstanding a high power spring if you decide to upgrade.

AND when looking to buy a gun you dont look for looks first you always look for INTERNALS you dont want to buy a piece of crap that looks good and breaks down right away =.=

This gun is what i think you should get, JG is a ACM company, and stock ACM guns maybe decent but they sure as hell are not durable, you need to reshim the gears and the factory grease inside those guns are disgusting.

Hope this Helps

No offense to you JG lovers out there, but seriously? JG? Their guns are really bad even though they have improved and even so they are still bad for the price they go for, always better economical guns out there, unless you're in Canada than thats a different story but if you have a wide open choice of options i dont think getting a JG is the best you can go for

[phloudernow]

Originally Posted by millergoodcall2

Well my only option really is the stag arms m4 which is about 200, I cannot go over that, not even a little bit lol. Plus I'm talking about metal body with ENGRAVED colt trademarks, I haven't found any of those...

King Arms m4, its a bit over 200 about 215? why not fork out another 15 bucks? fullmetal, got colt markings etc Read the other post to see what i say lol

[TokyoSeven]

Originally Posted by phloudernow

No offense to you JG lovers out there, but seriously? JG? Their guns are really bad even though they have improved and even so they are still bad for the price they go for, always better economical guns out there, unless you're in Canada than thats a different story but if you have a wide open choice of options i dont think getting a JG is the best you can go for

Dont call me a JG lover, that's like me calling you a fat smelly inbred mongoloid.

There are many options out there that are better but he posted 2 options, I gave him the best of the two that were mentioned.

[phloudernow]

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven

Dont call me a JG lover, that's like me calling you a fat smelly inbred mongoloid.

There are many options out there that are better but he posted 2 options, I gave him the best of the two that were mentioned.

Wasnt Directing what i said to you man, chillz

[millergoodcall2]

I think I'm most interested in the king arms m4. I've always wanted it, but with battery, charger, I need more bbs, and 70 dollar shipping, it's over 300 dollars lol Buying from a hong kong based website is pretty much out. And U.S. based websites don't have cheap enough king arms! This is making me lean back towards the jg! What about ca sportline?

[Spike]

CA sportline models aren't being made with metal bodies anymore, so there's not much of a point in getting one. The quality of them is not going to be any better than the JG in the first place, as it's classic army's entry level (ie poor quality control) line.

[phloudernow]

Originally Posted by millergoodcall2

I think I'm most interested in the king arms m4. I've always wanted it, but with battery, charger, I need more bbs, and 70 dollar shipping, it's over 300 dollars lol Buying from a hong kong based website is pretty much out. And U.S. based websites don't have cheap enough king arms! This is making me lean back towards the jg! What about ca sportline?

Well if you want the base model its only 215 but yeah i guess you got shipping to worry about, did u consider the Deepfire m4? from Red Wolf? its 199 and its pretty much what you need i would say

[fleuryfighter]

G&P m4 from airsoft gi $250 and its G&P and in the usa so free shipping