WETTI AWSS M4 GBBR vs KJ M4 GBB vs G&P WOC M4

[Tsquared]

Which one is known for the best reliability?

I was looking at the G&P WOC M4 because of the 50 round mags.

Anyone thoughts?

[Styrak]

There are many threads on GBBR's already on the forum.

Try a bit of using the search function.

[Thenooblord]

G&P would be on the bottom I'd say, many have nothing but praise for the WE system, but I think its a steaming load of shit, and I know of many with severe feeding/reliability issues, and I've had next to no issues with my KJW, but it doesnt kick as hard as WE or WA, KJW also uses 38 round mags, so more shots than WE, less than WA

[Tsquared]

Do you know of any retailers in Toronto that carry the KJW? I've only seen it on 007 airsoft which is in alberta. But I'm guessing there shouldnt be a problem of getting guns seized if its in the same country eh?

[pusangani]

get av'd and you will find out where the stores are.

[Tsquared]

Originally Posted by pusangani

get av'd and you will find out where the stores are.

I did, and now i'm playing the waiting game..

[Castle]

Originally Posted by Tsquared

I did, and now i'm playing the waiting game..

Clearly you're not playing it very well.

From multiple reviews/comparisons, KJW M4's have the best reliability out of the box. However, their internals are less realistic, there are no trades, and some people do not like the thermold mag's aesthetics.

[pusangani]

hehehehe av tag avatar fail

until you are av'd no one is going to help you get a gun, they will give you advice on which guns are better however if you look like you're worth helping

there are 2 FAQ threads on the WE system and the KJW system, I'd suggest reading both threads to see what people's opinions on either system are.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...light=KJW+gbbr

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...light=KJW+gbbr



Most people swear by one or the other, so any comparison will largely be opinion based, read up on both systems and then make an educated decision on which is better for you.

If you ask which is better you will get 10 saying WE and 10 saying KJW so it really makes no sense, and you just look like a lazy noob that just wants to be spoonfed the information.

Happy reading

[Tsquared]

Originally Posted by pusangani

hehehehe av tag avatar fail

until you are av'd no one is going to help you get a gun, they will give you advice on which guns are better however if you look like you're worth helping

there are 2 FAQ threads on the WE system and the KJW system, I'd suggest reading both threads to see what people's opinions on either system are.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...light=KJW+gbbr

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...light=KJW+gbbr

Most people swear by one or the other, so any comparison will largely be opinion based, read up on both systems and then make an educated decision on which is better for you.

If you ask which is better you will get 10 saying WE and 10 saying KJW so it really makes no sense, and you just look like a lazy noob that just wants to be spoonfed the information.

Happy reading

I'll have a good read at those. I'm just trying to feel out everyone's personal opinion. Sometimes these reviews I read online are pure bias and not what I need.

GBB are expensive and I really want to know what I'm buying. But unfortunately as it seems you need to be AV before really knowing whats good. I personally would love to check a store or retailer and compare the guns in person. However it doesnt seem like any shops near by have 2 different brands to compare with since each retailer seems to only carry 1 brand GBB..

[Eeyore]

Hi Tsquared, it may literally come down to how much money you are willing to invest in the long run. Inokatsu is the top of the line but at about $2300 plus hundred for a valve and upgrated parts to game it and mags it is usually out of most players limit. G&P WOCs are fantastic guns but they also require parts to become gamable and mags so you are usually looking at around $2500. KJ M4 is gamable out of the box IIRC and has a little cool down but I heard some have issues with its depenability. And the mags are expensive too. Lastly there is WE, generaly they are around the same price range as a KJ but need a new valve to be gamable. And as nooblord said some individual guns have quality issues while others love them. Besides cost of the WE being relatively low, mags are less expensive than all the other gbbrs. So its really a question of how much money and effort you are willing to sink into what amounts to a really cool toy. Take your time and read reviews, get av'ed and go to some games and ask players who are running gas rifles what their experiances with them are. Gas guns are only getting more popular and the every company seems to be turning one out. They are not going anywhere.

[HeadlessChicken]

Are you sure you wanna dive into GBBRs as your first airsoft gun? Consider not only the cost of the gun and parts but also take into consideration that a GBBR requires more maintenance. I personally find my GBBRs are easier to maintain, they're easier to field strip them most AEGs which is a god send because I find I'm cleaning, lubing, and greasing my GBBRs more often then my AEGs.

[lexbroski]

Originally Posted by Eeyore

Hi Tsquared, it may literally come down to how much money you are willing to invest in the long run. Inokatsu is the top of the line but at about $2300 plus hundred for a valve and upgrated parts to game it and mags it is usually out of most players limit. G&P WOCs are fantastic guns but they also require parts to become gamable and mags so you are usually looking at around $2500. KJ M4 is gamable out of the box IIRC and has a little cool down but I heard some have issues with its depenability. And the mags are expensive too. Lastly there is WE, generaly they are around the same price range as a KJ but need a new valve to be gamable. And as nooblord said some individual guns have quality issues while others love them. Besides cost of the WE being relatively low, mags are less expensive than all the other gbbrs. So its really a question of how much money and effort you are willing to sink into what amounts to a really cool toy. Take your time and read reviews, get av'ed and go to some games and ask players who are running gas rifles what their experiances with them are. Gas guns are only getting more popular and the every company seems to be turning one out. They are not going anywhere.

Every new KJW I've seen shot around 500FPS or higher outta the box. Not gamable at most fields.

[Brian McIlmoyle]

In general need a little tuning.. and typically some replacement parts to adjust the FPS before they can be used as a primary weapon ..

I have 4 WE products currently and for me once tuned up, they are reliable and serious fun to shoot.

that said... I would recommend a AEG as your first gun.. unless you like to tinker and have the aptitude to do it.

[Thenooblord]

Originally Posted by lexbroski

Every new KJW I've seen shot around 500FPS or higher outta the box. Not gamable at most fields.

mines and the others ive seen all shot 425

[aZn_triXta07]

500FPS Full-Automatic = Prohibited Device

You might not want to be posting this on a forum where LEOs are lurking about.