Tokyo Marui cansoft is here!!

[Con Murder]

The fact that this thread got instant replies is great, also google will pull this up for any canadian who puts Canada and Tokyo Marui in the search window. So now that Frank has his product in our reach its going to be this forum that perpetuates it. Now with the posative take on TM that this sight gives (general) it is easy to expect someone to think its the best thing ever and finally available to them. Soon, my friend, soon we will have our questions answered and perhaps another route to send the new players down.


PS emailed him this morning about it and no reply yet, T7 has the right idea... Patience.

[Foxx]

Originally Posted by Drake

That chart is rather ill-informed.

Airsoft IS "Canadian Legal" (i.e., you may own and use one, no one is coming to your house unless you do something stupid with it), but the import and transfer isn't legal, although currently only imports and commercial transfers (open sales in stores) are being restricted.

Considering Frank already has Velocity Arms -branded lowers (presumably some might be TM compatible, like ICS) it's not unimaginable that he just got a bunch of TM guns sans lowers and used his own.

I don't think you understood my point here so I'll try and enlighten you. This chart was made to show how ridiculous Canadian legal is, all of these airsoft guns are legal though the only differences between them is that some can go through the border while others can't. That doesn't justify calling some of them Canadian legal... it should be "Can legally go through the Canadian customs"...

Canadian legal is like saying that you need to have a clear lower receiver to play airsoft in Canada. Just like United States legal would mean that you need to have an orange tip to play airsoft in United States.

[Skruface]

Meh. No one needs to buy guns (even TM quality) for overinflated prices now that tinted bodies are available dirt cheap.

1. Buy a VA tinted lower for $30.
2. Drive across the border and buy a new TM M4 for $250-ish, or a used one for $125-ish.
3. Install Tinted lower, toss TM lower in trash bin.
4. Drive back across border into Canada making sure to declare you non-replica airsoft purchase.

As long as you have a car and a set of jeweller's screwdrivers then Bob's your uncle.

Not Bob the Angry Potato, though. He owes me $400 still.....

[cbcsteve]

Heh heh thats pretty much all you need to do

Don't forget to add the fifth step

5. Get custom Tinted lower receivers buy guns with no receivers build them yourself and open up an internet shop and SELL BRAND NEW TM GUNS banner and don't forget to add
CANADIAN LEGAL

Originally Posted by Skruface

Meh. No one needs to buy guns (even TM quality) for overinflated prices now that tinted bodies are available dirt cheap.

1. Buy a VA tinted lower for $30.
2. Drive across the border and buy a new TM M4 for $250-ish, or a used one for $125-ish.
3. Install Tinted lower, toss TM lower in trash bin.
4. Drive back across border into Canada making sure to declare you non-replica airsoft purchase.

As long as you have a car and a set of jeweller's screwdrivers then Bob's your uncle.

Not Bob the Angry Potato, though. He owes me $400 still.....

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by Skruface

1. Buy a VA tinted lower for $30.

According to the VA web site, that's not so easy...

Originally Posted by Velocity Arms

Replacement body for customers that have purchased Velocity Arms AEGs. Please check details inside.

In order to purchase this we first require you to send in your BROKEN Velocity Arms receiver first.

So no, that won't work.

[The Saint]

To be fair to the cansoft businesses, they're jumping through all the hoops to get these things manufactured and properly imported. It almost certainly a lot of work to run such a fully legit businesses, a lot more than simply buying inventory off BFL abusers or smugglers, or running across the border to swap a few receivers for your own acquisition.

At the end of the day, that effort to run a legit airsoft business should be commended, even if the prices aren't to some people's liking.

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by The Saint

At the end of the day, that effort to run a legit airsoft business should be commended, even if the prices aren't to some people's liking.

+1 Fully agreed there. And VA and Mach1 have managed to keep their prices reasonable despite the cost of operating a legal business and having their own lines of Cansoft guns. That's why I full support these retailers, even though I haven't bought any of their products. If I didn't have guns and was starting out, that's where I'd go. And I recommend them to any noob that asks me for advice.

The others though, not so much.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by Foxx

I don't think you understood my point here so I'll try and enlighten you. This chart was made to show how ridiculous Canadian legal is, all of these airsoft guns are legal though the only differences between them is that some can go through the border while others can't. That doesn't justify calling some of them Canadian legal... it should be "Can legally go through the Canadian customs"...

No, some of those guns can't go through customs and shouldn't be sold on the open market (public websites, stores) or risk landing you in hot water because while they're 100% legal to own and use, they aren't supposed to get transferred, period. That would even extend to personal sales (classifieds) even though that clearly isn't being enforced right now.

Canadian legal is like saying that you need to have a clear lower receiver to play airsoft in Canada. Just like United States legal would mean that you need to have an orange tip to play airsoft in United States.

Yes, that's what several people have brought up already, "Canadian Legal" is more of a marketing buzzword which makes the black receivers sound illegal (and while technically you shouldn't buy/sell them, they're perfectly fine if you already own them so they're "Canadian Legal" as well).

Just like orange muzzles are only required for transfer and can be removed after they've been purchased in all but a handful of States.

[PrIeSt]

I'd still like to find somewhere to buy a fair priced HQ tinted lower

TM/CA compatible and I would be happy

[baker_Jeff]

Originally Posted by The Saint

To be fair to the cansoft businesses, they're jumping through all the hoops to get these things manufactured and properly imported. It almost certainly a lot of work to run such a fully legit businesses, a lot more than simply buying inventory off BFL abusers or smugglers, or running across the border to swap a few receivers for your own acquisition.

At the end of the day, that effort to run a legit airsoft business should be commended, even if the prices aren't to some people's liking.

Thank you.

I don't even deal with manufactures, and running this business is almost more than I can handle!

I have a great deal of respect for all other legit business', because I know they're not all doing it for the money .

Jeff

[squeenix]

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister

According to the VA web site, that's not so easy...



So no, that won't work.

http://albertaairsoft.com/store/prod...id_product=515
Boom, $200 for a used TM M4

[DarkAngel]

Foxx, I think you need to do some more research.
You cannot sell airsoft guns "canadian legal" or not. Exchange of ownership is 100% illegal.

[Amos]

Originally Posted by DarkAngel

Foxx, I think you need to do some more research.
You cannot sell airsoft guns "canadian legal" or not. Exchange of ownership is 100% illegal.

Wrong.

You can not sell REPLICA FIREARMS. not "airsoft" Replica Firearms --- Aaaaand go look what qualifies as a firearm

[nitro1]

exchange of ownership is 100% LEGAL not illegal. importing with out proper lic is illegal
once in canada it is legal infact customs rule for non registerable firearm is 407 to 500 fps that meets the energy needed for a non registerable firearm as long as the fps is stamped on the box by the manufacture.

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by squeenix

http://albertaairsoft.com/store/prod...id_product=515
Boom, $200 for a used TM M4

G&G bodies aren't TM compatible. That wouldn't fit on a TM or one of its plastic-bodied clones.

I'm assuming the one on the VA site is a replacement for their new JG line which is TM compatible.