Gearbox locking up

coach · February 3rd, 2009, 13:16

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Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker

EG700 will serve you better than the EG1000, it put out more torque, therefore increasing your ROF a bit, and is quieter too.

oh so true. an eg1000 in my m4 is worlds louder than the eg700 in my mp5.

grimreefer · February 4th, 2009, 00:18

I'm not considering buying another TM motor. Just trying to decide between replacing my pinion gear, or replacing the motor all together. Is the Guarder Infinite Torque up superior to the EG1000?

grimreefer · February 5th, 2009, 12:49

This is probably a bad idea...but how bout the Systema Magnum motor? I read good things about trigger response, which I really like. I would only be using a m120 spring at the most though.

m102404 · February 5th, 2009, 12:54

The Guarder Infinite Torque Up is a lot stronger than the EG1000. The Systema Magnum is a little bit stronger than the Guarder. Either is very, very nice.

Personally...unless I knew that the motor was in great/new shape...I'd just buy a new motor.

ybrik · February 7th, 2009, 08:17

try adjusting the motorheight with only the gears inside the gearbox. You could hear weezing sound as you adjust it and get the optimum height. With this plus a good shimmings, your pinion gear would last long.

CDN_Stalker · February 7th, 2009, 10:56

Personally I'd be trying the pinion gear replacement first, then decide whether to buy a new motor or not. I could replace the gear for you if you sent me the motor and pay for shipping both ways, I think I saw a spare gear or two in my parts bin, plus I have the tool to yank the damaged one off.

grimreefer · February 7th, 2009, 12:44

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Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker

Personally I'd be trying the pinion gear replacement first, then decide whether to buy a new motor or not. I could replace the gear for you if you sent me the motor and pay for shipping both ways, I think I saw a spare gear or two in my parts bin, plus I have the tool to yank the damaged one off.

I really appreciate the offer. One of the reasons I want to completely replace the motor is that the bell end is a little mashed up. I think it may be at least part of the problem as to why I can't lower motor height. It just gets stuck.

CDN_Stalker · February 7th, 2009, 16:26

It's plastic, surely you can file/cut away to clean it up?

Haha, I just realized you said "bell end"!!!! That is fucking hilarious!!!! And it's 'mashed up'?!? God I'm gonna DIE!!!! You can take over now finally!!!!

grimreefer · February 9th, 2009, 14:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker

It's plastic, surely you can file/cut away to clean it up?

Haha, I just realized you said "bell end"!!!! That is fucking hilarious!!!! And it's 'mashed up'?!? God I'm gonna DIE!!!! You can take over now finally!!!!

I tried a new motor yesterday and I was having the same problems. Locked up, motor jams up too high.

I even tried lubing up the bell end, and it still won't pop back down into the grip plate. I took the motor height adjustment off and tried pushing on the bell end to work the shaft up and down inside the grip, but something seems too tight. You like that, Stalker?

ROAR · February 9th, 2009, 14:26

LOL! your wires in the grip are prob not allowing the motor to spring up and down (hehe, this is airsoft we are talking about right) try rearanging the wires. Another time i found once was the screw heads on the screws that hold the grip to the mechbox were to big and interfering with the motor end.

CDN_Stalker · February 9th, 2009, 14:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by grimreefer

I tried a new motor yesterday and I was having the same problems. Locked up, motor jams up too high.

I even tried lubing up the bell end, and it still won't pop back down into the grip plate. I took the motor height adjustment off and tried pushing on the bell end to work the shaft up and down inside the grip, but something seems too tight. You like that, Stalker?

I commend you on that awesome description, as well as knowing what a 'bellend' is!

grimreefer · February 9th, 2009, 15:58

lol. Anyways...I switched grips and lost the motor height problem. But it still can't pull the spring. I heard the spring pull back, which is an improvement over total lockup, but not far enough to fire. I bypassed a set of the low-quality connectors in my stock and it sounded stronger, but still not enough to fire. So I figure this has to be an electrical problem.

Motor is good. Motor height is good. Gears and gear ratios are good (standard). Shimming is good. Battery is good (9.6v). Spring is modify 110. Still no worky.

I'm gonna get some gold plated motor connectors from Jugglez. Are the Modify deans connectors good? Do the the deans connectors fit through buffer tubes? Like...can they be connected directly to the mechbox and threaded through my stock to make a direct connection to the battery?

I'm tired of fucking around with this thing. I want a gun that works (and very well), so I'd like to get everything I need to make sure my electrical is as good as it can get.

CDN_Stalker · February 9th, 2009, 16:09

What piston do you have in there anyways. I recall last year a couple mechboxes locking up (piston would go almost full rear then stop, not enough to be released) and I think the problem was the DeepFire pistons not liking to be used with a bearing spring guide. I actually found this in two different guns.

Just a thought.

Splashx · February 9th, 2009, 16:11

does the battery has been completely charged? Try another one if available

coach · February 9th, 2009, 16:11

charge up the battery.

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February 4th, 2009, 00:18	#17
grimreefer Trader rating Join Date: May 2008 Location: Victoria, BC	I'm not considering buying another TM motor. Just trying to decide between replacing my pinion gear, or replacing the motor all together. Is the Guarder Infinite Torque up superior to the EG1000? __________________

February 5th, 2009, 12:49	#18
grimreefer Trader rating Join Date: May 2008 Location: Victoria, BC	This is probably a bad idea...but how bout the Systema Magnum motor? I read good things about trigger response, which I really like. I would only be using a m120 spring at the most though. __________________

February 7th, 2009, 08:17	#20
ybrik Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada	try adjusting the motorheight with only the gears inside the gearbox. You could hear weezing sound as you adjust it and get the optimum height. With this plus a good shimmings, your pinion gear would last long. __________________ 5.56x45mm + m27 = M249(SAW)

February 5th, 2009, 12:54	#19
m102404 Tys Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto	The Guarder Infinite Torque Up is a lot stronger than the EG1000. The Systema Magnum is a little bit stronger than the Guarder. Either is very, very nice. Personally...unless I knew that the motor was in great/new shape...I'd just buy a new motor.

February 7th, 2009, 10:56	#21
CDN_Stalker Official ASC Bladesmith Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ont.	Personally I'd be trying the pinion gear replacement first, then decide whether to buy a new motor or not. I could replace the gear for you if you sent me the motor and pay for shipping both ways, I think I saw a spare gear or two in my parts bin, plus I have the tool to yank the damaged one off. __________________ STKR Knives http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/STK...17036668380871

February 7th, 2009, 16:26	#23
CDN_Stalker Official ASC Bladesmith Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ont.	It's plastic, surely you can file/cut away to clean it up? Haha, I just realized you said "bell end"!!!! That is fucking hilarious!!!! And it's 'mashed up'?!? God I'm gonna DIE!!!! You can take over now finally!!!! __________________ STKR Knives http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/STK...17036668380871

February 9th, 2009, 14:26	#25
ROAR Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB	LOL! your wires in the grip are prob not allowing the motor to spring up and down (hehe, this is airsoft we are talking about right) try rearanging the wires. Another time i found once was the screw heads on the screws that hold the grip to the mechbox were to big and interfering with the motor end.

February 9th, 2009, 15:58	#27
grimreefer Trader rating Join Date: May 2008 Location: Victoria, BC	lol. Anyways...I switched grips and lost the motor height problem. But it still can't pull the spring. I heard the spring pull back, which is an improvement over total lockup, but not far enough to fire. I bypassed a set of the low-quality connectors in my stock and it sounded stronger, but still not enough to fire. So I figure this has to be an electrical problem. Motor is good. Motor height is good. Gears and gear ratios are good (standard). Shimming is good. Battery is good (9.6v). Spring is modify 110. Still no worky. I'm gonna get some gold plated motor connectors from Jugglez. Are the Modify deans connectors good? Do the the deans connectors fit through buffer tubes? Like...can they be connected directly to the mechbox and threaded through my stock to make a direct connection to the battery? I'm tired of fucking around with this thing. I want a gun that works (and very well), so I'd like to get everything I need to make sure my electrical is as good as it can get. __________________

February 9th, 2009, 16:09	#28
CDN_Stalker Official ASC Bladesmith Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ont.	What piston do you have in there anyways. I recall last year a couple mechboxes locking up (piston would go almost full rear then stop, not enough to be released) and I think the problem was the DeepFire pistons not liking to be used with a bearing spring guide. I actually found this in two different guns. Just a thought. __________________ STKR Knives http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/STK...17036668380871

February 9th, 2009, 16:11	#29
Splashx Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Near Quebec city	does the battery has been completely charged? Try another one if available

February 9th, 2009, 16:11	#30
coach aka coachster Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: T dot	charge up the battery.

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