Benefits to Gas guns over AEG?

ThunderCactus · March 24th, 2013, 13:22

GBBRs are usually less likely to break down than AEGs, it's the mags that usually develop leaks.

AEG's are all TEMPERATURE, GBBRs can't short out in the rain (HPA can be all temps)
GBBRs tend to have better stock range and accuracy, have fewer upgrades & therefore cost way less to upgrade fully, and typically have REALLY good performance in their temp range.
Ease of maintenance, need a gundoc to do anything cool to an AEG, anybody can work on a GBBR, there's almost nothing you can screw up.
AEG's always shoot around the same FPS, GBBRs change muzzle energy based on temperature, weight of ammo, maintenance (dirty bolts reduce fps), and gas used.
GBBR's will perform better with heavier ammo vs an AEG shooting the same relative velocity, since the inital pressure is much higher and allows you to impart more hop to the BB without losing drastic velocity.
EX: an AEG shoots 330fps without hop with a .3, you add hop and now it shoots 270
a GBBR shoots 330fps without hop on a .3, you add hop and the fps may very well increase!
Now you could increase the spring in the AEG to maintain the fps after hop, but that would most likely breach the field limit since most people test guns with the hop off.
AEG mags are dirt cheap, GBBR mags are probably going to cost you as much as or more than the gun.
trigger response....well AEG's have potential to be just as fast, but GBBRs are typically quicker.
Good all season workhorse vs realistic awesomeness

Pro's and cons to both.

Strelok · March 24th, 2013, 13:33

One thing i've found about GBB's of any kind (Especially the more loud ones) is that it makes people more willing to stay behind cover when they're being shot by them. When I was attending Operation Keystone Strike 4, some guy was using a Mac11 GBB, and when that thing let rip everyone stuck behind walls and windows, haha.

Other than that, most of the other benefits of GBBR's have been spoken already

Danke · March 24th, 2013, 13:59

I'm not sure if the Gas isn't for new guys is valid anymore.

I've seen new players go a season on a KJW rifle and not be let down. They may have a couple issues but nothing career ending.

I've also seen more than a few players in their first season with an AEG that broke who never returned because they couldn't get it fixed.

There is a pretty big knowledge base around gas guns now and they've developed since the first boom a few years ago.

JerryMcGoulBerry · March 24th, 2013, 14:21

You can fit an effective gas system in a small package for gas guns. Thats why almost everyone uses gas pistols and small submachine guns. You can't put an effective gearbox in a glock!

Janus · March 24th, 2013, 14:56

It's a question of reliability. Every shot out of my finely tuned AEG is the same and I eat GBBr on the field. Also, mag reloads take about half the time and you don't smell like gas.

Of course, I've hit that point where I'm able to do anything mechanical or electrical to an AEG so my view is a little biased.

GBBr feels way better, though. My M14 is sweet as fuck to fire.

Janus · March 24th, 2013, 14:57

Also, SAW. Enough said.

XZIVR · March 24th, 2013, 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janus

Also, SAW. Enough said.

Polarstar SAW?

The Chad · March 24th, 2013, 15:46

I have owned both and built both aeg and gbbr.

Gbbr is my preference but is not better IMO.

Gbbr is more realistic (especially g&p woc) and more fun to operate.

AEG is good for consistency and reliability in cold weather which is why I'd say aeg is better.

Off_kilter · March 24th, 2013, 16:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by XZIVR

Polarstar SAW?

Polar star doesn't have blow back so its not a Gbbr :/

Danke · March 24th, 2013, 16:16

I can do anything required to repair or refine an AEG but I don't want to.

If I wanted to play with electric trains or make jewelry then those would be my hobbies.

The Chad · March 24th, 2013, 16:19

Quotable lmao

Drake · March 24th, 2013, 17:28

GBBRs and temperature:

MAPP/Pro in propane mags works in colder weather and is less subject to cool down when shooting. CO2 also works in cooler weather. NPAS really helps with consistency.

coach · March 24th, 2013, 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Off_kilter

Polar star doesn't have blow back so its not a Gbbr :/

Daytona then

Brian McIlmoyle · March 24th, 2013, 20:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake

And obviously it's fun as fuck to shoot. Completely new experience that breathed a second life into airsoft for me.

What he said

Hectic · March 24th, 2013, 20:17

I think he meant AEG saws as he was leaning towards aegs are better.
But +1 to what coach said a classic m60 is boss lol, wish all th classics werent so damn pricey these days. We need to get the new as companies to buy the old designs and start makin that shit again.
I always yearn for a YE mp5sd6

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March 24th, 2013, 13:59	#18
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	I'm not sure if the Gas isn't for new guys is valid anymore. I've seen new players go a season on a KJW rifle and not be let down. They may have a couple issues but nothing career ending. I've also seen more than a few players in their first season with an AEG that broke who never returned because they couldn't get it fixed. There is a pretty big knowledge base around gas guns now and they've developed since the first boom a few years ago. __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

March 24th, 2013, 14:21	#19
JerryMcGoulBerry Trader rating Join Date: May 2012 Location: Calgary Alberta	You can fit an effective gas system in a small package for gas guns. Thats why almost everyone uses gas pistols and small submachine guns. You can't put an effective gearbox in a glock! __________________ "This is the kind of grease I'd put in my girlfriend"

March 24th, 2013, 14:56	#20
Janus Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Red Deer, AB	It's a question of reliability. Every shot out of my finely tuned AEG is the same and I eat GBBr on the field. Also, mag reloads take about half the time and you don't smell like gas. Of course, I've hit that point where I'm able to do anything mechanical or electrical to an AEG so my view is a little biased. GBBr feels way better, though. My M14 is sweet as fuck to fire. __________________ Age Verifier - Lower Vancouver Island Brotherhood of Nod - Nod Prime \|\| Vancouver Island Airsoft League - President Unavailable for AV until April 2020.

March 24th, 2013, 13:22	#16
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	GBBRs are usually less likely to break down than AEGs, it's the mags that usually develop leaks. AEG's are all TEMPERATURE, GBBRs can't short out in the rain (HPA can be all temps) GBBRs tend to have better stock range and accuracy, have fewer upgrades & therefore cost way less to upgrade fully, and typically have REALLY good performance in their temp range. Ease of maintenance, need a gundoc to do anything cool to an AEG, anybody can work on a GBBR, there's almost nothing you can screw up. AEG's always shoot around the same FPS, GBBRs change muzzle energy based on temperature, weight of ammo, maintenance (dirty bolts reduce fps), and gas used. GBBR's will perform better with heavier ammo vs an AEG shooting the same relative velocity, since the inital pressure is much higher and allows you to impart more hop to the BB without losing drastic velocity. EX: an AEG shoots 330fps without hop with a .3, you add hop and now it shoots 270 a GBBR shoots 330fps without hop on a .3, you add hop and the fps may very well increase! Now you could increase the spring in the AEG to maintain the fps after hop, but that would most likely breach the field limit since most people test guns with the hop off. AEG mags are dirt cheap, GBBR mags are probably going to cost you as much as or more than the gun. trigger response....well AEG's have potential to be just as fast, but GBBRs are typically quicker. Good all season workhorse vs realistic awesomeness Pro's and cons to both.

March 24th, 2013, 13:33	#17
Strelok Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Brandon Manitoba	One thing i've found about GBB's of any kind (Especially the more loud ones) is that it makes people more willing to stay behind cover when they're being shot by them. When I was attending Operation Keystone Strike 4, some guy was using a Mac11 GBB, and when that thing let rip everyone stuck behind walls and windows, haha. Other than that, most of the other benefits of GBBR's have been spoken already

March 24th, 2013, 14:57	#21
Janus Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Red Deer, AB	Also, SAW. Enough said. __________________ Age Verifier - Lower Vancouver Island Brotherhood of Nod - Nod Prime \|\| Vancouver Island Airsoft League - President Unavailable for AV until April 2020.

March 24th, 2013, 16:16	#25
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	I can do anything required to repair or refine an AEG but I don't want to. If I wanted to play with electric trains or make jewelry then those would be my hobbies. __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

March 24th, 2013, 17:28	#27
Drake E-01 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montreal, QC	GBBRs and temperature: MAPP/Pro in propane mags works in colder weather and is less subject to cool down when shooting. CO2 also works in cooler weather. NPAS really helps with consistency. __________________

Benefits to Gas guns over AEG?

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