How CBSA would react

Eeyore · April 14th, 2009, 14:22

So I just received my order from ehobbyasia from their ebay site. I notice on the customs slip that the package had not been inspected by customs. Then I notice that ehobby declared the package as video games. If the CBSA had inspected the package and found that the items were magazines and not video games would it have been seized and would I have been fined or something along those lines?

ShelledPants · April 14th, 2009, 14:26

Aren't magazines $0 duty anyways? Or is that books?

Mr.Shiney · April 14th, 2009, 14:28

That would depend on what directions you had given them. How did you ask/inform them to mark or label the package? If you had intended and designed to have the package mislabeled, then yes CBSA would have a kitten. However if the shipper had a moment of stupidity, then not your fault.

Michael

Crunchmeister · April 14th, 2009, 14:31

At worse the package may have been seized for being misdeclared. But declaration is the shipper's reponsibility, so I wouldn't see you getting into any trouble for it beyond losing your items.

Eeyore · April 14th, 2009, 14:33

Great thats all I needed to know. I didn't request they mislable anything, ehobby did that on their own. Do you know if they will seize the shipment am I liable for expenses?

Mr.Shiney · April 14th, 2009, 14:36

As long as you did nothing directly as to have the shipper mislabel the product you should not be liable for their error. If CBSA does decide to sent back an item, it should be at the shippers expense. If you have already gotten the package, and it had been mislabelled, and it was not searched. No worries.

Eeyore · April 14th, 2009, 14:46

Thanks man. Ya this package is all good, but I was just concerned about making anymore purchases from them. Wasn't sure who was liable for mislabled products. Thanks gents.

Crunchmeister · April 14th, 2009, 14:54

eHobby usually label my packages as "toy parts". Technically, that's accurate, since the guns are toy guns.... Never had them label them as video games.

Eeyore · April 14th, 2009, 15:01

Oh and how the hell does the CBSA get off charging me a $5.00 handleing fee for a package they didn't even inspect.

Styrak · April 14th, 2009, 15:06

Because they "handled" it AKA touched it.

Lol.

Crunchmeister · April 14th, 2009, 15:09

"Handling" basically means the brokerage fee - the paperwork required to bring it into the country. Be thankful it wasn't UPS. That $5 would be more like $45 + GST...

mcguyver · April 14th, 2009, 16:01

I can tell you from experience that mislablelled packages are 100% the receiver's responsibility. I can see how this could be confusing, but the way the CBSA views it, it's up to the receiver to ensure that the shipper labels it properly, and properly declares value.

If the CBSA finds either of those to be a problem, they will contact the receiver first to get clarification or proper invoicing first, and if you don't have that, they may seize the package or level you with an administrative penalty.

They obviously can't go after the shipper in a foreign country, so they put the shit on the reciever in Canada, where they have jurisdiction.

Buzzrexx · April 14th, 2009, 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister

"Handling" basically means the brokerage fee - the paperwork required to bring it into the country. Be thankful it wasn't UPS. That $5 would be more like $45 + GST...

Or FedEx -often the "brokerage fee" is more money than the product that was shipped is worth! Stupid and downright robbery :flame:

ILLusion · April 14th, 2009, 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by notom66866

Oh and how the hell does the CBSA get off charging me a $5.00 handleing fee for a package they didn't even inspect.

Customs did not charge you that fee.

If your shipment came through Canada Post, then their own brokerage charged you that fee to assess the value of the shipment, classify it with a CBSA importation excise codes charge any GST, PST or duties applicable, perform the paperwork to document the exchange and finally turn over all of those taxes and duties over to the CBSA.

Someone's gotta do the job, and that someone's gotta get paid.

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April 14th, 2009, 14:22	#1
Eeyore Suburban Gun Runner Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: St Lambert, Quebec	How CBSA would react So I just received my order from ehobbyasia from their ebay site. I notice on the customs slip that the package had not been inspected by customs. Then I notice that ehobby declared the package as video games. If the CBSA had inspected the package and found that the items were magazines and not video games would it have been seized and would I have been fined or something along those lines?

April 14th, 2009, 14:26	#2
ShelledPants Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toronto, On	Aren't magazines $0 duty anyways? Or is that books? __________________ Ár skal r?*sa, sá er annars vill fé eða fjör hafa. Sjaldan liggjandi úlfur lær um getur né sofandi maður sigur.

April 14th, 2009, 14:28	#3
Mr.Shiney Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: London,Ontario	That would depend on what directions you had given them. How did you ask/inform them to mark or label the package? If you had intended and designed to have the package mislabeled, then yes CBSA would have a kitten. However if the shipper had a moment of stupidity, then not your fault. Michael Last edited by Mr.Shiney; April 14th, 2009 at 14:33..

April 14th, 2009, 14:31	#4
Crunchmeister Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In your bedroom going though your underwear drawer	At worse the package may have been seized for being misdeclared. But declaration is the shipper's reponsibility, so I wouldn't see you getting into any trouble for it beyond losing your items. __________________

April 14th, 2009, 14:33	#5
Eeyore Suburban Gun Runner Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: St Lambert, Quebec	Great thats all I needed to know. I didn't request they mislable anything, ehobby did that on their own. Do you know if they will seize the shipment am I liable for expenses?

April 14th, 2009, 14:36	#6
Mr.Shiney Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: London,Ontario	As long as you did nothing directly as to have the shipper mislabel the product you should not be liable for their error. If CBSA does decide to sent back an item, it should be at the shippers expense. If you have already gotten the package, and it had been mislabelled, and it was not searched. No worries.

April 14th, 2009, 14:46	#7
Eeyore Suburban Gun Runner Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: St Lambert, Quebec	Thanks man. Ya this package is all good, but I was just concerned about making anymore purchases from them. Wasn't sure who was liable for mislabled products. Thanks gents.

April 14th, 2009, 14:54	#8
Crunchmeister Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In your bedroom going though your underwear drawer	eHobby usually label my packages as "toy parts". Technically, that's accurate, since the guns are toy guns.... Never had them label them as video games. __________________

April 14th, 2009, 15:01	#9
Eeyore Suburban Gun Runner Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: St Lambert, Quebec	Oh and how the hell does the CBSA get off charging me a $5.00 handleing fee for a package they didn't even inspect.

April 14th, 2009, 15:06	#10
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	Because they "handled" it AKA touched it. Lol. __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

April 14th, 2009, 15:09	#11
Crunchmeister Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In your bedroom going though your underwear drawer	"Handling" basically means the brokerage fee - the paperwork required to bring it into the country. Be thankful it wasn't UPS. That $5 would be more like $45 + GST... __________________

April 14th, 2009, 16:01	#12
mcguyver Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Alberta	I can tell you from experience that mislablelled packages are 100% the receiver's responsibility. I can see how this could be confusing, but the way the CBSA views it, it's up to the receiver to ensure that the shipper labels it properly, and properly declares value. If the CBSA finds either of those to be a problem, they will contact the receiver first to get clarification or proper invoicing first, and if you don't have that, they may seize the package or level you with an administrative penalty. They obviously can't go after the shipper in a foreign country, so they put the shit on the reciever in Canada, where they have jurisdiction. __________________ Age verifier Northern Alberta Democracy is two wolves and a sheep discussing what's for dinner. Freedom is the wolves limping away while the sheep reloads. Never confuse freedom with democracy.

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