Informations for upgrading a Type 96

[Sim123456]

Hi guys, I just posted a review for a SD96B. First let me say that I am reading a lot from forum to retailers. I would like to jump the FPS from stock 465 (0.2g) to 550 fps+- only for target shooting. I read many things like:

PDI Hop up chamber
PDI 6.01 tight bore
etc.

but there is so many parts and brands and people arguing agains each other so I am a bit lost. What would be a nice set-up? Pieces like spring, spring guide, piston and cylinder etc.

Thank you for your patience.

[Kos-Mos]

You should change the whole cylinder.

PDI and some other makes some nice kits.

This is pricey though.

Then you just have to drop a spring in it.

The stock parts will get damaged quite fast if you just change the spring.

The PDI hop-up and tightbore are more for accuracy. You can still use the stock hop-up unit fine.

[Sim123456]

Thank you Kos-Mos. I have a +-500$ budget. I heard that a stock hop up wont hold +500fps? And I don't know if you could tell me brands names because this is one of the things that I find difficult to choose. Let's say that "OK" made a tune up kit for 500fps with cylinder/piston/spring guide and spring. Can I just swap the spring that come with it with a stronger one? Thank you

[Kos-Mos]

That OK kit is discontinuated.

And it was pushing 575 fps in my rifle.

PDI lv2 cylinder set
KM red piston head
Laylax PSS2 3 elements piston
Laylax 7/9mm spring guide
Laylax PSS2 150% spring (should set you around 500-550)
Laylax PSS2 120% spring (should set you around 475-500 for gaming purpose)

Then

PDI Type 96 hop-up chamber
Prometheus 509mm 6.01 tightbore
Prometheus RED hop-up rubber

I modded my stock trigger unit to reduce the lenght and weight of the pull, but you can install that instead:

King Arms/Laylax Zero trigger system

Then you are done for it. Almost everything usefull will be done to your rifle.

[Sim123456]

Thank you Kos-Mos. Do choosing 7mm or 9mm spring guide depends on the spring that follow? And should not I choose a 170% since it is only for target shooting purpose?

I was also wondering if installing everything requires special skills or it can be learn while doing it? I am more use to modify my Savage

509mm need a silencer for covering the extra lenght?

[Kos-Mos]

The guide I told you about is both sizes. Low power springs are 7mm, higher power ones are 9mm.

The inner will come out about 5 mm at the end.

If you want to use a silencer, you have to first add an adapter for it. The adapter itself will cover the end of the barrel.

You can also add a realistic muzzle break. These screw on the silencer adapter to directly in place of the muzzle cap.

[Sim123456]

Thank you, I think it is pretty much all for now Kos-Mos ^^

[Sim123456]

For the cylinder set, can I just buy PDI precision cylinder set? And what is better between hard piston and vacuum piston? And how can you find out what version of type-96 you own? Should I guess that if you buy now it is only ver2 (with 12mm cock handle)?







And then choose a 9mm spring for it.

[Sim123456]

Anyone?

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by Sim123456

Anyone?

Sometimes it takes more than 22 hours for someone to respond. People don't live on this forum. Be patient. If you haven't gotten any replies to a question in a couple of days, then feel free to bump the post. After 22 hours is a little...annoying.

Anyways, something I don't think Kos-mos mentioned (and if you did and I missed it, my bad) is a new trigger box. The plastic ones on the ACM L96's have a tendency to break, especially with an upgraded spring.

EDIT:
My bad, he mentioned the Laylax zero trigger system.

[Kos-Mos]

I had the PDI full set in my rifle before.

The piston is crap.

The "impact" o-rings are held in place by a tiny aluminium lip.

After about 100 shots, the o-rings slips out of place and causes a lot of problems (moslty because the gun spits rubber parts. That causes jams all the time until you fid why)

That i why you should get the LV2. It is the same kit, but without piston/guide. Also, the PDI guide is 9mm only, and it is poorly made. Mine was out of center. That is why I used the Laylax one instead.

And if you are using a genuine Maruzen rifle, the trigger gox is PLENTY able to hold a 600 fps spring.

[Sim123456]

Sorry for the bump, my bad

Ok I see why there are differents parts in the set-up you told me. I have a clone from TSD, not a guenuine Maruzen (half the price and 465fps). Quality is surely not he same though.

I will continue to studie this and sorry again for my lack of patience (^_^)

[Sim123456]

Hi Kos-Mos, I have build a kit for fun and learning, what do you think of it? (Compatibility) It is all in stock at Uncompangy

Laylax PSS96 Cylinder Head Type 96
Laylax PSS96 Cylinder Type 96
Laylax PSS96 Spring Guide Type 96
Laylax PSS2 Piston APS-2
Laylax PSS2 Piston Head APS-2
Laylax PSS2 170% Spring
Laylax PSS96 Trigger Sear Type 96
Laylax PSS96 Zero Trigger Type 96

Make any sens? Thank you