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Old June 27th, 2012, 04:10   #34
Fox62
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Originally Posted by wildcard View Post
Ignorant on GBBR eh?? YUP What's a GBBR again?? hhmm let's see I've probably owned and used most of the airsoft gun that was ever made since the days of JACs and shell fed airsoft and in a matter of fact I do own and use classic airsoft and a fully functional custom WE, I've owned pretty much most of the closed and open bolt system since I sold my Garage Gun works/Smokeys M82A1, my favourite WE OB system that I currnetly have is my full RA-Tech XM177, I did own two Inokatsu M4 and I have shot and own for a brief time the KJW and other WA based GBBR like the WOC. I also have the extreme pleasure to shoot the custom GBBR in Hong kong and Taiwan where they are powered by CO2 in individual shells instead of mags, which if I may are way more accurate and reliable than the mag in the gas WE/WA/KJW based system. The amount of money to make a GBBR shoot as accurate and reliable compared to a AEG/PTW are enormous and quite finnicky from model to model and the only one I've seen and shot that will make most of the GBBR in the market now feel like a toy is the Custom GBBR rifle that I had the pleasure to shoot while I was in HK. In terms of enjoyment of use or realistic feel my stand on WE still stands the rest have their pros and cons but in order to fully imitate a real steel rifle a custom GBBR is still the way to go and the cost will be prohibitive to some. There are some systems that exist in Asia that only use CO2 and as such they require a lot of steel parts that is more robust than the usual pot metal that exist in current GBBR.

CNC Parts, Stainless steel and other goodies are available for the current GBBR platform if you know where to find it and don't mind the cost, there are small companies that don't have a website and survive basicly by word of mouth, these companies make a small batch of customized parts, unfortunately since they are quite a small operation we tend to miss them completely.
You don't really need steel and CNC parts. Gas-in-mag design, CO2 has no advantage over Propane, and doesn't necessarily have a heavier recoil (it actually achieves less overall energy in WE guns because of the design of the CO2 mags).

As I said earlier, at least on the latest WE SCAR (which is the platform I have more experience with), you change the bolt (and it's not even essential), and the gun will run for a very long time. I don't really know what you're talking about.

Also, no wonder you think gas guns are crappy; the RA-TECH parts are the ones that suck for the most part. Their super bolt for the SCAR is horrible, and their trigger group isn't very impressive. Their precision barrels could be worse, I guess. Dude, you bought a "custom" gun from RA-TECH, how do you know the amount of money it takes to make a GBBR shoot reliably and consistently? I know the TM PSG, to turn into a decent DMR platform, can cost over 1500 bucks (all the prices I'm talking about are outside Canada). An OB SCAR (220 USD + 70 shipping), inner barrel and bucking (100 bucks all shipped), and the Modify steel bolt (120 bucks shipped), that's...well, you can get at least couple of 'em for what a PTW goes for.

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lol! Luck for him he appears to be in Argentina.
Oh, I've been to Canada. I don't like Canadians.

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I'm running .30s which seemed to be the top tip from research. What are the other favorite weights?
I run a DMR, so I used .43. From experience, heavier ammo works wonders on gas guns. I know people who run the KWA MP7 on at least .36 with great results, and I'd even consider .40 for an assault rifle.


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