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Styrak March 19th, 2008 04:23

P90
 
I have a stock P90 that I want to have parts available for outdoor gaming.

Therefore I want a tighbore and stronger spring. I have a P90 TR, so I also have the supressor. My question is, if I get a P90+ length barrel which fits (407mm) will I have problems with the stock mechbox/cylinder/cylinder head/piston/piston head? With almost doubling the barrel length, it seems like something would be bad. But I need some advice. Illusion, your ears are probably perking up.

SG1-EVERETT March 19th, 2008 07:21

P90 Barrel Length
 
I installed a 363MM in one of my P90s and it works with the stock cylinder.
I also installed a 455MM in my other P90 and cut 5MM off to make it fit correctly inside my silencer. There are several posts on this subject in the forums. But to make it esay for you just get one of the below cylinders.
All you have to do is buy a barrel XXX Lentgh and buy the below cylinder that matchs the length of your new barrel.
KM TN TAPER CYLINDER for AEG Barrel 200-400mm
KM TN TAPER CYLINDER for AEG Barrel 400-590mm

BloodSport March 19th, 2008 11:57

I''ve got a spare G&P SPR/a length barrel in my stock P90, no problems shooting, just had to find the right length of silencer to cover it all.

Styrak March 19th, 2008 14:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by BloodSport (Post 672576)
I''ve got a spare G&P SPR/a length barrel in my stock P90, no problems shooting, just had to find the right length of silencer to cover it all.

This is the kind of thing I want to hear. Thanks!

Also, did you get increased accuracy? I'm assuming you did but did it change much?

SG1-EVERETT March 19th, 2008 17:20

Cylinder Match
 
You can not just put any barrel on your P90.
Cylinders have ports to allow the BB to exit the barrel properly.
A long barrel on a cylinder made for a shorter barrel will cause the BBs to get suck back.

DOM March 19th, 2008 19:15

I have been doing a lot of messing about with my P90 and when it comes down to it, i almost wish I had kept it stock...haha
As for the longer barrel one of the first things I added was a Mad Bull 6.03mm Tightbore Barrel - 455mm and had no worries with it. I did not have a crono at the time so I could not tell you if it was faster, but it did seem to hit harder and farther, but it's hard to tell with only ones eyes.

I would NOT recommend going any higher than a ms90 spring with stock parts, I got a ms110 and it was really tearing apart my cylinder, as well I had to run a 9.6v bat with a stock extender and and and....

Here is a link for some more info, but I did get some new parts and will be updating it in the next week to a new configuration.

http://www.canadianservers.com/cia/v...e03b149cf84792

Do as much research as you can and get a good plan down first. You can get away with just about anything as long as you don't get a up the spring much. It's all expensive after that.
There are many good posts here with a lot of useful information.
I would recommend:
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=50
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=18038
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=4911
Just to start out with.

Or you can find some one else that has a nice stable configuration and copy that.
I hope that helps.

DOM March 19th, 2008 19:21

I have been doing a lot of messing about with my P90 and when it comes down to it, i almost wish I had kept it stock...haha
As for the longer barrel one of the first things I added was a Mad Bull 6.03mm Tightbore Barrel - 455mm and had no worries with it. I did not have a crono at the time so I could not tell you if it was faster, but it did seem to hit harder and farther, but it's hard to tell with only ones eyes.

I would NOT recommend going any higher than a ms90 spring, I got a ms110 and it was really tearing apart my cylinder, as well I had to run a 9.6v bat with a stock extender and and and....

Here is a link for some more info, but I did get some new parts and will be updating it in the next week to a new configuration.

http://www.canadianservers.com/cia/v...e03b149cf84792

Do as much research as you can and get a good plan down first. You can get away with just about anything as long as you don't get a up the spring much. It's all expensive after that.
There are many good posts here with a lot of useful information.
I would recommend:
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=50
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=18038
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=4911
Just to start out with.

Or you can find some one else that has a nice stable configuration and copy that.
I hope that helps.

Styrak March 19th, 2008 20:00

Wow, it looks like you paid WAY too much for your upgrade parts.

And if I was upgrading I'd put in a bearing spring guide, metal bushings, and an M100 spring. Maybe a 400mm tightbore like I said.

ILLusion March 20th, 2008 02:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 672441)
I have a stock P90 that I want to have parts available for outdoor gaming.

Therefore I want a tighbore and stronger spring. I have a P90 TR, so I also have the supressor. My question is, if I get a P90+ length barrel which fits (407mm) will I have problems with the stock mechbox/cylinder/cylinder head/piston/piston head? With almost doubling the barrel length, it seems like something would be bad. But I need some advice. Illusion, your ears are probably perking up.

Should be no trouble regarding cylinder.

The cylinder used is the same one used in M4's, which are known to be able to use up to 407mm inner barrels with no problem. It's when you step up to the AK-47 length 455mm inner barrel - that's when you need to step up to a type-1 or full / non-ported cylinder

Styrak March 20th, 2008 02:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILLusion (Post 673520)
Should be no trouble regarding cylinder.

The cylinder used is the same one used in M4's, which are known to be able to use up to 407mm inner barrels with no problem. It's when you step up to the AK-47 length 455mm inner barrel - that's when you need to step up to a type-1 or full / non-ported cylinder

Alright thanks. Oh and to correct myself, the 407mm barrel I was talking about is an M4+ barrel, not P90+.

oOMuDOo March 21st, 2008 13:39

I have a Ak-47 barrel on my PS90, shoots very nice.
Stock gearbox pretty much, shims/bushing & 1J spring.

No issues. actually very precise. Got a dude in the goggles at 90+ ft. last game.
All I could see was his helmet and goggles.

Kos-Mos March 21st, 2008 17:01

Yah... got me on the hand while I was setting my hop-up too... over 100'...

oOMuDOo March 21st, 2008 17:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kos-Mos (Post 674829)
Yah... got me on the hand while I was setting my hop-up too... over 100'...

Yeah, but that did not count... I was just shooting long burst at you cause we wanted to play the first round. :rolleyes:

I hope you don't hold a grudge.


Point is... see a P90 with a longer barrel = nice hit's...

ILLusion March 22nd, 2008 15:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by oOMuDOo (Post 674700)
I have a Ak-47 barrel on my PS90, shoots very nice.
Stock gearbox pretty much, shims/bushing & 1J spring.

No issues. actually very precise. Got a dude in the goggles at 90+ ft. last game.
All I could see was his helmet and goggles.

With that setup, you might want to check your velocities in the middle or end of a full auto burst. There may be suck back with your setup. It's possible it may be avoided if you're running a tightbore inner barrel and a ventilated piston head.


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