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aZn_triXta07 December 22nd, 2007 12:31

NEW Tokyo Marui BLOWBACK AK74
 
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...l?prodID=23628

Just found this on RedWolf Airsoft, don't know if its old or not.
Looks very cool, the moving parts add to the sound of the mechbox.

caboose36 December 22nd, 2007 12:44

Hmmmmm Very cool. I wonder were most of the preshior is. But very cool.

Coma December 22nd, 2007 12:58

Old-ish news. Discussed to death. Supposedly its been made especially hard to upgrade internally to comply with Japan's laws.

I feel that the EBB (which is what it is, no matter how you slice it) while cool does not replace a good Escort system. Which I'd rather wait for.

Tomolok December 22nd, 2007 14:20

so the stock's hollow then? Holy front heavy batman!

Skladfin December 22nd, 2007 14:27

is there any review out for this yet?

El Cactus Loco December 22nd, 2007 14:47

pssh theres as many AK versions out there as there are M4s nowadays.
"marui mags only"????? wtf is that?

666 December 22nd, 2007 17:08

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Originally Posted by El Cactus Loco (Post 600700)
pssh theres as many AK versions out there as there are M4s nowadays.
"marui mags only"????? wtf is that?

Hopup and mag design is comptely different from any other brand out there, so all non TM mags will not be compatible.

Penguin December 22nd, 2007 17:34

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Originally Posted by 666 (Post 600744)
Hopup and mag design is comptely different from any other brand out there, so all non TM mags will not be compatible.

Its even worse than that, look

"standard Marui AK Mags can not be used with this gun"

So you have to buy ALL new magazines, even if you have a pile of TM standards or hicaps.

Drake December 22nd, 2007 19:35

This doesn't seem like much of an improvement over the vibrator they had in the UZI since way-back-when. Just seems like there's more stuff that can break for no particularly good reason. Systema had a "recoil" upgrade package out once upon a time; that never caught on, either.

Unfortunately, it seems Marui is finally starting the heat from competitors now that solid and increasingly reliable products are coming out (STAR, G&P, VFC... maybe even CA for some stuff), and are turning to gimmicks to get attention.

Dracheous December 22nd, 2007 20:50

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Originally Posted by Drake (Post 600799)
Unfortunately, it seems Marui is finally starting the heat from competitors now that solid and increasingly reliable products are coming out (STAR, G&P, VFC... maybe even CA for some stuff), and are turning to gimmicks to get attention.


I wouldn't say that Drake, TM already has its consumer base, and its quality to keep its customers, and that airsoft is larger than paintball around the world, there's still a good base for them. I think TM is really looking to these "new ideas" to flaunt in a way that other companies like you've mention have. "Special Editions" and "Limited Editions", TM hasn't really created a LOT of these recently, or none that I've seen. And even still, I remember when I started playing few years ago TM had an M60 in the works that was going to have a "rocker" that shook the ammo belt to make it appear to be feeding. The point to that was the TM M60 never caught, and I think that this AK could be just another one of those products that they create and show case, in marketing research to see what people really want. Lots of companies do stuff like that, they show off the product and then shelve it for a year or two and then WHAM its all over the place. Just look at that flat touch screen stuff. Two years ago we had threads all over the place about that stuff, and now were all after the iPhone which is pretty much the front runner in that technology now.

Anyway, I don't think TM is fearful of its competitive edge, they still have the largest line up of guns available from one manufacture. Yes, several companies are catching up, CA has had a great push lately at their expansion, and ICS is growing too. But the fun thing is simply that if you look at most the other manufactures out there, all their parts are GENERALLY TM compatible, and the fact that we all look for TM compatibility alone should really drive home exactly how safe TM's consumer base really is; for the time being anyway.

Wilson December 22nd, 2007 21:16

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Originally Posted by Dracheous (Post 600840)
...airsoft is larger than paintball around the world...

Everywhere but Canada.

Andres December 22nd, 2007 21:19

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Originally Posted by Wilson (Post 600856)
Everywhere but Canada.

*cries*

matt491 December 22nd, 2007 22:38

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Originally Posted by Andres (Post 600859)
*cries*

THERE'S NO CRYING IN AIRSOFT!!

Andres December 22nd, 2007 23:26

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Originally Posted by matt491 (Post 600887)
THERE'S NO CRYING IN AIRSOFT!!

*sniffle* Yes... sir :(

666 December 23rd, 2007 00:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 600751)
Its even worse than that, look

"standard Marui AK Mags can not be used with this gun"

So you have to buy ALL new magazines, even if you have a pile of TM standards or hicaps.

I should've said new TM mags. I watched video that was posted here some time ago, new mags look different from anything we have on the market.
Gun will suck anyway. I don't see a lot of people use it with that blow back function and special mags.


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