Prices for guns in the classifieds
 

End of Feburary update!
Mid semester exams are kicking my ass, but there has been interest in prices from a couple of people. I don't have the time to do a serious drilldown of the data, but you can grab the raw snapshot of the last 7 days here.

These prices usually include accessories, upgrades or other package deals.

Current AEG ads: 1058
Current Gas & Spring ads: 864
Current retailers threads: 57

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5465/25361481.jpg

I swear, if anyone without an Age Verified tag PM's again me about buying one of these, my reply will consist of only goatse and shemales.

Goatse? Pricelists? Shemales? Where the hell am I?
Welcome to this humble thread, I'm guessing this is your first visit. Since I was on the verge of baby seal clubbing after reading threads after threads of new members asking for prices, I thought I'd share research I did to search more effectively the classifieds. This was really useful to me for making offers on items, and expanded a bit it contains lots of nifty stuff.

Can I help?
Yes! Never, ever delete the prices in your ads. I know, I know, you're proud you finally sold your crap. In the spur of the moment, you might want to show the world your incredible business success, and rejoice by replacing your price by "SPF" or "Sold".

I don't get these people. Seriously, what the fuck? Not only is it an actual ASC infraction to delete them, since you're already editing your post, leave your victory comment off the price. If you want to banana your thread, just type it anywhere in the post.

Also, if you sold really exotic or rare guns in the last year, please PM me the following info if you want to add it in. Your contribution will be anonymous unless you want to be added to the thank you list.

Make, model, price and state.

Retailers can also help by sending a spread sheet of the same info.

Finally, pass it around. I've seen a few arguments where hiss-fits were thrown because the kidiot didn't see the glaring sticky thread named "Prices for the guns in the classifieds". I mean, that's just sad.

Stop tempting me damn it! How can I get my hands on these?
You will need to get Age Verified. All you need to do is contact your local rep and go meet him. Bring coffee as a bribe. After verifying you're not a 16 transvestite prostitute, you will gain super powers, or at least be added to the user group that can access the deliciously mysterious 18+ sections of the board, including the classified ads and the retailer shops.

Go here for some help:
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=49408


Disclaimers and stuff
No, I don't own any of these guns. They are for sale, but not by me. I will not disclose how to contact the people selling them. I will however disclose whatever request you make to the admins.

You should make your own research before making any transactions. Although I don't think anyone seeded tainted values in the market, it would be possible to abuse this list since it relies on publicly modifiable information.

This should only be interpreted as a means to motivate people to wait until they are 18 to buy a gun, to get age verified and to abstain from buying guns from international or shady sources.

i can see why people ask, either they are really interested or perhaps just curious. then you have a bunch of people telling him/her to get AVed without actually answering the question. i think they know why they cant see the buy/sell section.

i dont know about other non-AVed users but i have contacted numerous nearby AVers for awhile, yet i get no response. i understand AVers are busy and this is done voluntarily. so maybe i should attend an event. but even if ive meet the AVer, it can take months or longer to actually get AVed. i want to get AVed, but theres only so much i can do.

surebet i appreciate you posting this thread, as i got a better idea of what the pricing is like in the used market. the AV process no doubt has a great intention. however, the way its ran seems to be holding a lot of people back, if not discouraging them from the sport.

^^^

You have to realize though that only "trusted" members can become AV reps. Usually this means that they're held in high regard by other senior members across Canada. I know that places like Vancouver is really hurting for AV reps, I think there's only 2 or 3 who are active and one of them is not even in Vancouver.

Your best bet is to go out to a game and do it. Head out to TTAC3 if you're in Toronto, contact Brian McIlmoyle (the owner) and secure a rental too so you can just go there, show your ID, get your info taken down and play the rest of the night with a rental.

PS: Has anyone noticed the Newbie tank is pretty much becoming the FAQ section with all the stickies at the top of the section? I mean it was meant to be a place where newbies could ask questions but it now seems like it's an annex to the FAQ's....

EDIT: I have nothing against helping out newbies who ask legitimate questions (and actually use proper grammar and punctuation) but it just seems like noobs are flooding this section with "w0t gun am b3st? I want hi FPS liek 450+" and you have to wade through these useless posts to answer questions that actually merit a good answer.

Personally, I think its fine.

Mainly because its doing what we intend it to do, Keep airsoft out of the hands of some spoiled child that'll take the thing to a park or to school, then problems seriously arise.

If the person really wants to get involved in the sport, there are guns out there that do not require age verification to aquire. If they want a taste of airsoft, buy one of those, play a game. And if they want to get something a bit more convincing in looks. They get age verified, its very simple.

We get very touchy when some fresh user comes in, spilling a mess of bad grammar and spelling mistakes asking for how much a gun is and where they can get it. 90% of the time its just some 14 year old trying to find something to get their parents to buy for them, simply because it looks cool. They tend to throw a bitchfest whenever they get the answer they werent looking for.

ASC used to put up with this kind of stuff on a near daily basis and to be quite honest with you, its really fustrating.

Thanks for taking the time to post this......im somewhat of a "newbie" myself.........although this newbie is almost 40 with a modest income ;-)
Im still trying to get in touch with an AVer in my area, but it looks like im SOL so far. So I browse the various Airsoft retailers to buy my goodies. Im looking forward to being allowed to view the classifieds here so I can share some of the wealth....lol

And seeing as here in NB there is a need, I will volunteer my services to become an AV once I myself get AVed.......lol

Bull. I know there's a long list of people you can go visit and not have to wait for them to get back to you.

Since Surebet did the leg work here, I'll offer more.

You are in Toronto. One of the highest concentration of AV'ers live in the GTA.

Army Issue
Brian McIlmoyle
Jugglez
Karnage
ILLusion

Endymion
Goldman
Hades
Krusty
MadMorbius
manchovie
Phalanix
Predator
Redneck
Retribution
Shooting Chef
Shrike


And that's just a list of people in the GTA. There are more but it is clear you didn't really try.

^
well i attended ttac3 to get AVed, and my status got updated instantly. so i highly recommend those who are interested in this sport and is 18+ of course, head over to a game and get AVed. dont make the mistake that i made of waiting for people's reply. glhf

I'm also waiting on the response of an AVer.
There's only 2 AVers in my region on the list of AVers who don't only AV at games. One lives too far for me to get to when he's free, and the other hasn't replied in over a month.
I would go to a game to be AVed, but they are rather infrequent, and too far to get AVed and leave.

then don't go to get AV'd and leave. spend some time there and get to know people. as much of an asshole people are on the internet, they are quite open and friendly in person. once you're av'd at the game, you can talk to people about gear and guns. I always recommend going to games because there will always be someone there who will let you molest and handle their guns. if you're nice, they will even let you try it out on the field and fire a mag or two.

taking the time and effort to get av'd shows a bit of credibility on your part. if people know you're lazy and can't be bothered, well you can guess where this will go.

This is true. As long as someone isn't an idiot, or acting like an idiot, I'll let them handle and/or fire my guns.

Or rent a gun and join the game.

Its even more annoying when you go to all the trouble of meeting with an AVer and it still takes weeks for your account to be updated. I am not really new to the sport, just didnt manage to get verified till recently, yet no change. Not very encouraging. And before any of you get on my case about why it took so long to meet with an AVer, first there arent many in Edmonton, and of those only one responded, and he and I couldn't get our schedules aligned. That and I had cancer this year. So when a store finally got approved to AV and I met him I thought I was all set. WRONG

Usual delay for verification is around 1 or 2 weeks, they are done in batches to make the process easier on the administrators.

Shouldn't be too long until it passes...

I hope not, cuz I cant even buy parts for some of the guns I already have(including full metal all black guns) from some retailers till my age verification starts working

Stop crying about it. It used to take a month or more. When I did my AV it was over 2 hours away to meet.

You're bitching needlessly, bud. Its in the works, nobody is going to make you an exception and get you verified faster because you are having a bit of a tantrum here. Wait for the person in charge of that to verify the batch and you will be good to go. Good things dont come instantly. Be patient.

Unfortunately this is a slow but necessary process to help prevent the sale and distribution of airsoft to minors. Try to liken it too a government ID, you submit your information or take your test and it takes a few weeks to arrive, it is a pain in the ass but its better then having unlicensed drivers running around. Also try to remember that this community is staffed by volunteers that have lives and schedules and the demands of a massive community can be very time consuming, even more so if they where to attempt to do everything as it comes up.

Having said this I can understand your frustration, but taking it out on Kalnaren won't accelerate the process of getting your AV tag. Also this really is not the place to have this sort of discussion.

Cheers

surebet i dont get it. is that the list of guns you have to sell? tons of good stuff.i would love to buy the hi-cappa if your selling it for $300? haha jk:P

thats a screen shot of the classifieds, not just what he has for sale, to give you a rough idea of going rate for guns

Thanks for the insight on the classifieds!

Looking forward to viewing it personally in a month! :)

Yes Armand! Glad to see you're still hangin around man, hope to see you on the field soon

^ this guy is a perfect example of a minor with a good attitude, he's waited his turn and is about to see his patience pay off!

I never forgot.

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j...oSeven/two.jpg

Thanks Pusangani! The Area 51 games were extremely memorable! Looking forward to game with you as well :)

Tokyo … that picture …ENOUGH
:rolleyes:

Atleast in Edmonton there are options as far as AV'ers go. Where I live there is only 1 AV'er and I don't even know if he is still active. Oh well, Patience prevails and a trip to the city may be good for the soul......:)

Sorry to hear about the Cancer, hope all is going well for you.:)

The market has fluctuated quite a bit recently with the arrival of the new Safesoft initiative.

There are about 420 posts in the AEG classifieds. Many of these posts contain multiple guns, but quite a few are expired listings that were not removed or discarded because of a local trade. It would be safe to say around 500 AEGs are currently available right now in the classifieds.

There are around 390 posts in the bolt and gas section. Once more, taking into account multiple gun threads and abandonned threads, around 450 pistols, gas rifles and bolt rifles available.

There are around 630 posts in the parts and accessory section, containing innumerable parts ranging from simple screws to near complete guns, kits, optics and mags.

All of this is available right now from particulars in Canada, so by getting AVed, you gain access to an absurd amount of stuff right now.

There are a few more retailers outside of ASC, but for the sake of argument I stayed within the AV retailer section. The only difference in methodology this time is instead of averaging prices, the lower was noted.

Results here:
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/8993/listbt.png

Lower end guns have not been included by personnal preference, but they are available at a higher import cost. The final cost will still be lower, but because of the higher margin, it is usually better to go for the top tier items.

I think this list needs updating....Predator hasn't been on this site since Dec. '05, haha

I thought he passed away or something? The guy just vanished into thin air.

Thanks, but shipping the guns need too long time.:flame:

In Canada it takes like 5-10 business days... how impatient are you?

Finally, after 2 years of interest in airsoft and being a minor I went in to get AV'd recently and judging by that list, It was definitely worth it. For any minor who is an impatient bug, all I gotta say is "More for me."

Shit got updated. Let me know what you think of the new format.

Man, I just wanted to thank you.

I met with an AV'er last week so I'm just waiting till it goes through (not complaining!). I know as a non AV'd noob not to ask any questions, so this is a godsend for me while I wait. Thanks!

I reckon you just saved me a lot of dough... and from feeling like a sucker...
good on ya Mr. Surebet

prices of GBB rifles going down?
 

Hi everyone, noob thread right? I haven't visited here in years, and haven't been following airsoft for a long time. It seems the price of GBB rifles have gone down quite a bit? The last time I checked, a GBB was going for about $2000. I've seen some sites offering brand new ones for around $500? In Canada?

On top of that, seems like it's ok to buy non-clearsoft now? Some of these GBB come with full metal uppers and lowers? Or is that still for law-enforcement only?

The clear/tinted thing is to deal with an importation issue, more or less. It's not really a problem once it's in country.

If this is your first gun I'd go for an AEG.

Since you're AVed, start window shopping in these sections:
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/forumdisplay.php?f=179
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/forumdisplay.php?f=8

Be aware that WE guns suck if you are going to buy a GBB rifle.

Hi, thanks for the reply. I've already got an AEG....haha, and it's a wallhanger since I've never played, but I was just wondering out of sheer curiosity if the trend is going towards GBBs.

It seems like the prices for them have dropped drastically so since they're more accessible that before, are more and more people using them? I remember the prices of mags was stupid expensive for these.

This is not thread for posting useless and incorrect information. Considering you were just asking how WE's are a week ago you have no valuable input on them sucking or not.

They don't FYI.

Burdell where did you get that info? There's several threads dedicated to the workings and quality and none agree with your statement.

Back on track, yes GBBRs have gotten slowly cheaper and cheaper. I remember in late 2009 buying a GBBR and then bought the same one again a few months ago and it was almost half the price of what I originally paid. Both new in box. So yes prices seem to be slowly declining.

Be aware that you have no idea what you are talking about and that no one cares about the opinion of someone who joined less than a month ago.

Well it could. I'm not sure of the future. I'd say probably not. AEG's have saturated the market and for now they'll be the mainstay. Maybe in 10 years there might be 30-40% of players running GBBR's but for now the majority is still AEG.

It does seem to trend towards that however but they would need a lot more support and knowledge built around them.

Think of it this way. Between technology A (TA), technology B (TB), and technology C (TC). TA came out first (this is your old school classic airsoft with remote lines and tanks), TB "revolutionized" the overall game/technology and because it had a good 15+ year run a lot of knowledge was built around making it better via aftermarket parts and incremental design improvements, TC comes along and it's "cool" but just doesn't have the built up "tacit knowledge" surrounding it to make those incremental improvements, for a bunch of companies to figure out the design and how to make it better and gain a great amount of market share for the time being. I suspect that you'll probably see ~25-30% of players using them 5 years from now and market share will go up, possibly to around 50/50 mix overall. Does that make sense?

PS: I'm planning on going the classic airsoft route myself, maybe grab a GBBR if it proves itself to be awesome but for now my AEG will do.

bump

Be aware that list is grossly out of date.

Indeed, the Excel file is the only thing worth reading right now. I'll archive the rest.

store
 

newbies here just want to ask if theres any airsoft gun store in grande praire or fsj?? and where is the cheapest store thanks:p:p:p:p:p

Just an FYI - check the Rules on "Necro Posting" and check the FAQ

Well, uh, this is awkward. Hi.

new here, trying to get some posts to view B/S/T forums

you nee to be age verified to access the classifieds

been creeping the forms for years, needed a post to go into the PM system.

With our current lockdown state is age verification still offered? Itching to swap some gear on classifieds...

Just posting to get access to PM
 

Posting purely for access to pm so i can get verified, trying to sell off my collection