C8 Discussion Thread
 

Hey guys! I'm finally getting started on my C8 project. I'd just like to have a discussion thread on C8s in general. I've done my research, but I always find a discussion to be more helpful. Any tips on how to get started? Pics? Info? Please discuss.

First of all, I'm pretty sure I have seen pictures of CF members with a Crane stock, could this be possible? I'd like to store my battery in the stock, I don't think I'd like the front heaviness of a PEQ. Any pictures of C8s would be very appreciated.

I know this is an out of the blue thread, but I just feel like there is no specific thread on C8s.


Please discuss,

Thanks.

I'm thinking of doing something like this:

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...t/sx3e3127.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...s/DSCF0666.jpg

http://www.casr.ca/101-rifle-c8fthb-carbine-1.jpg


I like the look of the last picture, but do the replica EOtechs work well in daylight?

Thanks for the info. So you can customize your basic C8?

Ok, thanks.

I'm building off a CA M15A4.

I'm thinking of adding:
- a crane stock to store my battery and/or PEQ (maybe wired to front and back)
- plastic handguard with small rail and Triad rail
- heavy barrel
- Aimpoint
- Vert grip

Any suggestions?

Yes, I forgot to mention a BUIS.

May I ask what the difference between RIS and RAS is?

Thanks.

If you buy the replicas, they are somewhat a bit visible in daylight.
The real EOTechs, are very visible.

If you are going for a C8 in general look... Don't forget that the CF isn't the only group using them. So you do have a lot of room for personnal choices.

I have an HK416 crane stock on my C8, and a Guarder crane stock on my C7. For me, it's more about functionality than looks. I want the CF weapons and their general look (including the proper C7/C8 receivers), but I won't give up the funcitonality of being able to fit a nice high capacity battery.

That's why I'm going to put a crane stock on there.

Thanks a lot for the info guys!

Here you can see both my C7 and C8 with their crane stocks. I like the look better than the standard small M4 stock. Add to that the ability to have a nice nigh capacity battery, and it's a winner to me, even though it's not 100% accurate for looks.

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._4454556_n.jpg

Here's my C8A3 so far... still a few things to add.

Yup. Not 100% accurate to "issue" standard, but accurate to "in the field" standard. Works for me. Like I said, I take function over cosmetics any day.

Are the heavy barrels only bigger at the end? So basically, could the standard RAS/RIS fit on a heavy barrel?

IE :
RAS: http://www.ebairsoft.com/tactical-handguard-p-904.html
Crane stock : http://www.ebairsoft.com/extended-ba...lack-p-66.html
BUIS : http://www.ebairsoft.com/dboys-arms-...ht-p-1335.html
OR
http://www.ebairsoft.com/rear-sight-...il-p-1145.html
Would this one be high enough for the stock triangle M4 front sight?

Any suggestions regarding parts choice? They must be compatible with Classic Army. Are these models compatible?

Thanks.

Yes. The dimension of the barrel usually has no effect on the use of an rail kit (unless its drastic). The D-ring and gas block are where the rails lock in after all ;)

more details can be refered to Tanio koba's exclusive GBB C8
http://www.hyperdouraku.com/airgun/kobam4/index.html
but how u guys get the scope???

thats just an m4a1 nothing impresive

no. it is a c8.

though it does seem they are using the US style carry handle and a six position stock so i spose were both right lol

edit 2:i keep getting distracted by that doods hair and glasses!

can anyone tell me where I could find a heavy barrel?

Well, I'm getting there slowly, very slowly ;).
So far I've added(excluding upgrades):
-Old style stock w/ mag pouch for Lipo battery (Wires will be passed through the buffer tube3stock and right into the pouch)
-BUIS
-Painted furniture
-Small rail w/ vert grip
-Tri-rai(until I get a Triad)
-Heavey Barrel(on the way)
-Hurricane 552(on the way)

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d9...4/IMG_0275.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d9...4/IMG_0276.jpg

Want to get a stock pad too.

Here she is with a heavey barrel(Thanks to Panzer;)) and Hurricane 552. Need to get a real triad and buttstock pad. Eventually a C8 body and such.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d9...Randoms013.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d9...Randoms014.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d9...Randoms018.jpg
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What SFW barrel is that? It looks like the Army Code one, and those are rare as rocking horse shit these days...

You'd have to ask Panzergrenadier about the brand. I think it was custom made. Looks like a CQB barrel with an extension. Here's a C8 CQB:):

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d9...14/Randoms.jpgn

Hello!

I also have C8 project on my hands but I have a problem. I can't find heavy barrel conversion anywhere so I desided to make it myself. I have the tools and needed skills to turn them on a lathe, but I need some dimensions. Can anybody tell me the lenght on the visible part of the barrel and diameters of different parts? I would be very happy if someone can help me.

-Pasi

p.s sorry about my english skills...

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sorry for the shitty web cam photos heres my inokatsu m4 gbb modded c8a3 like i used overseas with the OMLT ambidex selector switch, mag catch real iron sight, and replica elcan and l119a1 heavy barrel was suprised to seem em for the inokatsu :P

Personally when i was overseas our unit in the omlt all of our wepon were painted tan and brown and we were issued both the c79a2 and the eotech 552 sight with the plastic iron sight as well. most of us were issued peq 4's while the remainder were issued peq 2's durring training i wasnt allowed any personal add ons not even my railed handguards however in theatre this was different. we were also issued the m3 tactical illuminataors and cadex vert grips but occasionally people taken old c9 grips and integrated them into the stock hanguards. in addition to od furniture tan furniture is a common feature now being issued in country heres a photo of my loadout overseas:[img=http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/449/mikeonpatrol.th.jpg]
my real steel eotech 552 is still in afghanistan... :( ow well

Nice kit!

Tupe: I'm quite busy at the moment, but if I can find the time I will mesure it up for you. Just keep checking this thread, lol.

Mike you gotta come show me that rifle! And you have to come play at the LZ sometime...

deffinatly would be a pleasure lessage :P just give me a call sometime and well go :)

Hello all

I'm new to the forums here (but not to airsoft) and thought you guys might like to see my custom build C8.

I thought I would do something Canadian since I'm living in Scotland now, it's my little reminder of home when I'm airsofting over here! :D



http://i.imagehost.org/0727/DSC00331_Medium.jpg

http://i.imagehost.org/0609/DSC00341_Medium.jpg

The 6-pos stock looks a bit odd, but sweet rifle! Need to get the A3 etched in sometime on your receiver too.

Looking forward to finishing my C8SFW. Will post pics once the build is finally done.

You'd hafta ask Huang about the brand of the barrel... I bought it from him originally... He's got em in his sales thread...

I really need to get around to finishing my SFW project.
http://www.dmt07.com/airsoft/FEB2009/1K_SFW_01.jpg

Very nice stuff!

Where are people getting the Bodies for these? I see 'em all the time, but I have no idea where they're coming from. I know Guarder makes a good one, but they're rare as all hell, no?

Here is my old C8 config.

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p441/milanwg/c8.jpg

Moi !

You can buy that barrel ready made and with the correct markings here : http://airsoftglobal.com/product_inf...9b7478d75e3998

Terv !

Vincent

I'll bump this up with a few C8 questions. The Dragonred L199A1 barrel is two piece, so whats the threading between the two barrel sections? Clockwise or counterclockwise? Good source of the OD rubber buttpad for the four position stock? Anyone ever seen an OD m16a2 style pistol grip for a PTW?

Thanks!

Issued buttpad isn't OD, just black. The threading on the barrel is CCW, and you're probably better off just spraypainting the grip krylon OD, I'm pretty sure that's what the CF armourers do anyways lol.

The issued pad is OD, although after use they loose they're color and can end up looking black. Trust me, I just got a box of new ones for some of the weapons at my unit. As for the grips, they either come black, or on the C8A2's they're green, just like the C7A2. If anyone's painting it, it's probably the user.

Oh wow lol, I've never seen a buttpad in its original green then. :P

My mistake about the grips, I thought I read somewhere that the C7A2 furniture was just black parts done over with krylon, but maybe that was just when they were trialled the upgrade?

Possibly, or whoever said that they were painted was off their trolly ;)

But the new furniture is green and nothing but. I have seen some stocks though that were starting to look brown, but rest assured, they aren't painted.

Drool time

Technically an L119A1 but still a Diemaco :D Still have to acquire a stoaway grip

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/DSC_0632.jpg

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/DSC_0635.jpg

Very nice! I love that carry handle, haha.

Thanks for the heads up guys. So where can one get the OD buttpad? I haven't had any luck finding a retailer that'll ship one to Canada...

So it's CCW threading on both threaded parts of that barrel? Gotta know what die to order ;)

And no joy yet on an OD m16a2 pistol grip for a PTW. Might have to paint that one...

Yep, both parts. You could probably just attach the front section to a factory PTW barrel if its 10 inch and 14mm-, if that's easier/cheaper.

In addition to od furniture there is also tan furniture a good percentage of the od furniture is painted over, i know i watched the wepon techs do it as for the tan all the do is paint them and bag em this why you see black comming through just like the od and even a very high amount of our handguards at 3bat r22r are black or painted green

Out of curiosity, these 2 piece barrels, can they be used in both 10.5 and 14.5 inch configs? ie M4 and M4CQB etc etc. It looks to me that it can, but ive never really played around with the two pieces to really check it out.

Also wasnt sum1 gonna go do a whole whack of triad's? like a group order or something? what happned to that?

Yeah you can run them in the long and short form, if they're like Huang/Dragonred's SFW barrel. Oh, it's 16 inch and 10 inch btw. Although the ProArms one is aluminium, Dragonred's is steel. But it's much heavier and about twice the price.

I think the group order for CNC'd triads fell through because reproducing them would be illegal, and in that scale it would have been risky.

Is the 16 inch for the L119A1 barrel exclusively? Most M4 length outter barrels are 14.5 inch. the CQBR Length being 10.5 inches. (According to the manufacturers anyways, i dont ever actually measure them lol) I think ill hit the Steel one from Huang's, While the aluminum is lighter, the finishing on it looks cheap + painted. Huangs kinda looks more anodized. Can anyone verify this?

Pity the Triads fell through. Woulda loved getting one

Edit : Huang doesnt seem to have any on his page as in stock anymore, and dragonred no longer stocks them. Looks like im stuck with the pro arms one.

Well they do make other 16 inch barrels for ARs, but yeah the C8SFW/A3 and L119A1 use a 16 inch barrel. Huang's is not a painted finish, so yes I believe it's treated grey. Plus although it's heavier than aluminium, it's very comforting to know that if you bump your barrel against something it's the object you bumped with it that's more likely to be damaged. :p
It's still on Dragonred here: http://dragonredairsoft.com/catalog/...products_id=68

Tried to order from dragon red but they are out of stock too.

This leads me to beleive that it was a limited production run

I'd say ask Huang about it first, maybe he'd know. It's a nice barrel, worth looking into.

Lil' update on mine. Changed the body (my Dboys died in horrible circumstances), now a build around a CA body.

Added reinforced front sight and storm grip (thanks to Lerch)

Looks much better now IMO with the mismatched painted parts

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/l...1blackbody.jpg

And by the way, C8 are 16in barrel not 14.5, 14.5 would be regular US M4A1

What sling are you using?

Get rid of that junk three point sling!!!

The a huge number of CF members use Vickers slings. They have also been procured by a number of units that deployed.

Get rid of the carry handle and put on an Aimpoint, EOTech or ACOG.

Yeh, but it's an authentic carry handle;)

Though I'm posting this in the Canadian part of the sub-forum I'm going for UKSF variation. It's still a C8 but with slight changes, carry handle, grip and front sight being the most noticeable.

As for the sling I totally agree, I have a Blue Force combat sling and it's the best thing I ever had! It's mounted on my M4 though. (I won that sling from you in a raffle at the LZ Ottawa :D).

The one I currently have on is a Blackhawk and is a pain to use... Can't adjust it on the fly like the Blue Force. Expect an order from me anytime soon :)

Good to hear!! :D

No you don't, we don't trust you with a weapon anymore ;-)

Bah, I'll just walk over to the toc and laugh at you mopping the floor. Yea good old Bde sigs, got to hate us, I know I do...

And to the discussion, Skeletor is correct, most guys buy their own attachments for the C8, and C7. Since they continually give us crap equipment.

Pretty much done my C8 FTHB, I'll be painting it and maybe changing it to a SFW or CQB.

Finally got the right handgrips and an Aimpoint.
Sorry for the crappy pics ;).

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d9.../CANSOF016.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d9.../CANSOF014.jpg

The only 'glaring' thing is the sling attachment behind the receiver, otherwise not half bad ;)

ps, I'm gonna have me a sweet DIS soon...motherfucker :D

Who makes the Repro? I wasn't even aware that repro ones were made.

Regardless, I LOVE my TRIAD

Warbird: Who makes the buttstock and handgrips on that?

Gato: I found both in the classifieds ;)
Lerch: I know, I just haven't had the chance to change it to the fixed one ;)
Mike: I'm gonna guess it's a repro, because it was only $20 or maybe $40, I think.

Hello guys !

I have finally decided to give up my AEG C8A3 and make a C7A2 GBB. I'm selling the relevant parts but i don't have access to the sale section of this site (age verifier and stuff)

So if anyone's interested, I'll sell the Guarder body with RS markings, ambidextreous mag catch, green guarder pistol grip, sling loop plate, G&p steel fire selector and King arms dummy right selector. Contact me if interested...

Best

Vincent

Hi guys, I have a question about C8s and their use in CF.
Will this pass for a non-SF C8? I know the vast majority of infantrymen are issued C7, but I am not going for 100% legit look.
Based on KJW M4A1, correct receiver & barrel markings are my next step.
http://o0.imgsrc.ru/c/chesnok/0/18480270MZB.jpg

p.s. Stock, handguards and grips are almost the same color, its just my sucky lighting and photographing skills.
p.p.s. ACOG is there because i like 4x optics over EoTechs and ELCAN is too bulky for my taste.

You could go for an Elcan C79 instead of the ACOG. Also, we don't use the full-blown RIS on our rifles; we use the Triad-Rail mount, though good luck trying to find one. That'd be ideal though.

Otherwise, not bad. You could also spring for an ambi-mag release, and the coat-hanger-sized charging handle too.

The only thing I could really pick on is the barrel, either a slim C8 or a heavy C8A3 barrel would be a standard. If you got picky, the sling bracket behind the receiver and the fat grip. The rest could just be labeled as private purchase ;)

Get rid of that Thermelt....er.....Thermold mag.

After combining some studies from ShadowTwoSix and other references from other threads in this forum, this is what my current C8A3 looks like.
My current C8 impression:

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...pstbhudhff.jpg
http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...pszxmbqgv8.jpg
http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1wu7pxgs.jpg
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Originally I opted for a more conventional C8 look by spraying the CADPAT light green with the original carbine stock and butt pad, but once I upgraded my Multicam kit to CSOR impression, I also upgraded the rest of my gun to more "customized SOF" style. With this I added the 2" barrel extension (haven't made the custom barrel extension yet), Vortex flash hider, used VLTOR stock, and changed the RIS and removed the delta ring. For accessories I used the EOTECH 552 and the PEQ-15. I also wasn't able to get the proper engravings for the fire selector unfortunately, so I think I will redo the CNC someday to get it right. I also not sure how factually accurate it will be to remove the delta ring and attach a RIS instead. Btw, please feel free to share with me what you think. Thanks!

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...sb3ijxqsf.jpeg
http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...sb3ijxqsf.jpeg
http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...psrdabd4lq.jpg

You can Get BCM TRIADS from the USA exported over the border

And here it is, my C8A3 after major mods.
I got someone to do my engravings in HK and it came out exactly how I preferred. The fire selectors have accurate markings

Other things include:

• Simon Sleeve
• Spectre Dr 1-4x
• Ergo grip
• Sling plate
• Vortex flash hider
• Vltor IMOD Stock
• PEQ-15

I originally wanted to put the PEQ to the top, but I after realized how much it was blocking the sight, I took it off.
I will eventually paint it tan someday, but for now I consider the project as finally completed.

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...psudicdoxh.jpg
http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/...pssxpabgsl.jpg
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I'm resurrecting this thread. I want to build a C8 but so much time has passed is it still do-able? Any idea what base gun I should start with? That's the big question for me. The other things like the front rails and the Canadian but stock I'm sure I can source somewhere?
Any and all Help appreciated.

Hi.
I've been more active on devtsix, IG and Facebook. It's been a while since I've been here so I'm sorry for this late reply haha.
So it depends on how far you want to go with the build...
If you want to get it engraved then I suggest the non-VR VFC M4 models because the trademarks on those are lasered on which can come off with high grit wet sand paper.
It also depends on what C8 you want done?
Grunt C8? Or a CANSOFCOM C8?
Grunt ones are fairly easy because the barrel extension is pretty cheap in comparison to a Vortex G6A2 replica with the collar (just about $120). Grunt ones you can buy all the furniture from Nordic Marksman so it makes it 10x easier. All C8 builds get expensive. Just saying that now.

Depending on how crazy you want to go, no matter what, all variants including C7s have an extra rail slot on the upper and towards the end by the charging handle, it's tapered off or known as "scalloped".
Then for lowers you'll probably be better off doing a FTHB build because it's non-ambi and is cheaper. But if you want do the A3, you'll need ambi mag release and fire selector, and the diamond shaped sling plate unless you do a CANSOF C8. Unfortunately those sling plates are not available for AEGs unless you get someone to CNC you one. There was a few people that make them, I believe LCS Engineering (the guy who makes the Vortex replica flash hiders) makes them.

But it's hard to give you advice if I don't know which one you want to do.
Grunt C8A3/C8FTHB
C8 recce (DMR)
C8CQB
C8IUR (CQB & DMR)

I suggest posting in the facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/203340260005244/

And if you want, you can slide into my DMs: @tf_muin

Is it ok if i post up pics of the different types of C8 used all arround the world?
For example, used by the Dutch army?
The used the Diemaco C8 but now they use the Colt Canada C8NLD and C7NLD.
Let me know ;)

Don't see why not. Might give people some ideas to do to their own builds.

Just a small collection of my C8NLD and C7NLD builds.
Also a Diemaco C8A1 built.
Still need the right stock for that one tho.
First pic a Tippmann styled as a Diemaco C8A1 used to be used by the Dutch special forces.
Below that the WE GBBR resyled to a Colt Canada C8NLD now used by the Dutch army.
Second pic,top is again a WE GBBR M16 rebuild to a Colt Canada C7NLD and below that a Tippy rebuild to C7NLD with UGL, also used by the Dutch army.
Last pic a WE GBBR M4 RIS restyled to a C8NLD and below that again a Tippy rebuild to C8NLD.
On the side 2 glocks 17 with full markings.
Last on the original Colt Canada C8NLD real steel
Enjoy

https://i.ibb.co/wMnqqGT/83163344-49...65569024-n.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/17NBLD0/82266668-62...58205440-n.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/RpkJDFy/82377461-65...87151616-n.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/njQdPZx/DSC-0575.jpg

Very spicy!

Are you the cat that had those 3D printed and posted in the L119 FB page? I've seen these before I think. Very nice builds man!

Starting off my little collection is my C8IUR WIP.
I am currently after a LA5 PEQ, EXPS3, ARMS front and rear BUIS, 3D printed ambi selector (working on that now), and a LCS Engineering Outpost Ops Inc suppressor for the accessories. Then I'd like to get C8A3 trades for the lower, IUR trades for the upper, have it milled (extra rail slot and tapered rear), and miliput the rail/upper to make it look monolithic.
I won't get into specifics but this is my main airshit blaster, it's a VFC DSG build by Jaeger Project. I tried getting the trades done before painting it but Maple Airsoft Supply stopped emailing me back after their 2nd reply to me...(?)
So if anyone here knows a reputable engraver in Canada let me know!
*last photo you can see the ambi mag release, and the PEQ16 removed*
https://imgur.com/quP0A9X.jpeg

C8CQB
This is my backup rifle, the lower is not kosher because I use my IUR lower with this upper when used.
The entire upper in this photo is 1:1 to Chay's C8CQB (chillinginthegray on IG), however I did throw my LA5 on the top rail and I will be putting the 553 from the IUR onto it once I get a new EXPS3. The future for this is getting a rear ARMS BUIS, a whole new VFC upper so I can sell this rifle (why I haven't touched the lower) and then have it milled out. Annnnd if I can find a Surefire M73 rail for a good price I'll definitely get that for it.
https://imgur.com/39smXfN.jpeg



C8SFW WIP
This is my WE GBBR, it's a plinker...never actually gamed it before because Nova Scotia sucks for gas guns.
Currently I gotta paint the stock (see group photo), get a rubber pad for it, Magpul RSA, rear ARMS BUIS. I won't get trades engraved for this, I might sell it TBH. I do plan on getting a LCS Engineering Outpost G6A2 for it as well, and the suppressor will be the same one for my IUR. Currently I have a Gemtech can on it to protect that stupid long 20" inner barrel in the meantime.
If I sell it I would keep everything on the upper for a VFC upper that I can use on my IUR, and if I do that I will 100% pick up a repro Gen 3 SpectreDR because the gen 1 is not kosher (also very ugly).
https://imgur.com/cLESk2O.jpeg


AS OF NOW GROUP PIC
https://imgur.com/oMrl8Kp.jpeg


Old group photo with my brothers C8CQB (black one)
https://imgur.com/Nh6z20n.jpeg
I will upload a better group photo(s) once I'm finished building them all!
It's slow right now because I'm also working on a Russian OMON kit (gear and rifle), and a Dutch KCT 416A5 build.

Wow. The C8A3 looks beautiful!

Sorry for the late reply but never got a notification about this one.
I just got to be a member of that page you mentioned. so no I wasn't the guy.
Or at least i don't think so ;)
I am working on parts to mimic the monolithic IUR that is used with those C7/C8NLD and L119A2 rifles.
Thanks for the comment about the builds :)
Will post some pics I have so far.
Also in process is a lower with the full markings of the C8NLD.
Do need to alter the Safe/Semi/Auto markings to S/R/auto as the original RS weapons have.
Keep you posted.

Regards Roy