[56k Death]Dboys Mauser Kar98k Real wood Spring Action
 

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*Thanks to Photobucket for removing my picture, you can make me stop using your service, but you cannot stop my conviction.
*Dboys Kar98k Spring action airsoft rifle with stock made of "Real Wood"
*Dboys Kar98k Shells
*Dboys Kar98k Stripper Clip
*Tanaka Kar98k Repro sling
*Militarytour.com Repro Kar98k Stripper Clip pouch (each carry 6 clips)
*Militarytour.com National Socialists German Battle Flag (sorry I don't like the party flag)
*Northridge International Repro Mauser Kar98k Steel Stripper Clip



History of the Mauser Gewehr 98, Karabiner 98k
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Gewehr 98 (World War I/ World War II) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G98
Karabiner 98k (World War II)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karabiner_98k
Dedicated site to Mauser 98k http://mauser98k.internetdsl.pl/indexen.html
Modern Firearms http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl02-e.htm

Quick Comparison amongst airsoft:
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Cosmetically:
Made in China, so heads up. When I first receive it, I can see wood chipping as well as the wood below wing safety. I could also see dings on my bolt handle and the magazine follower.
The paint on the gun chips extremely easily, as I tried to place my gun on cement gently it still scratch it. The bolt area the paint and metal strips quite a bit. When I field strip it for maintainence I always find metal and paint dust. The wood is what I should say...They are real wood tried to be real but it feels like plastic to me. Also beware; the wood behaves much more like brittle plastic to me, especially the dents and the surface feels more like plastic. I got some dents on my stock already, and I will say you need to use gloves and handle it like a baby otherwise its easily scratch and/ or dent.

Operation:
Overall the bolt push cock system with the shells isn’t my favourite. It’s really hard to cock if you push it in slowly, if you push it fast and the bullet did not feed properly you will feel the pain on the palm and the shell will be dented.

Accuracy:
The ranges I took are just in my garage so about 22 feet total. The accuracy of this gun is iffy, I can get 1inch but, that’s with a gun being a meter stick. The hop up is a pain in the ass; you need use an allen ranch to adjust it. The main fault from the poor accuracy is from the 3 stage barrel (Shell Chamber, 6mm innerbarrel, and finally 8mm innerbarrel) as well as the crappy hopup. From what I know, AEG barrel would work, however, the hopup cutout is aprrox 1.5inch away not like AEG barrel when its at the entrance of the inner barrel.


Accessories:
Officially from D-Boys the only accessories available are:
*Extra shells which comes in sets of 5 (RSOV likes to sell em in twos)
*Stripper Clip, DO NOT GET THESE, they're more expensive and more crappy than the centirefire version.
Others available are:
*Sling, I use a Tanaka one, but really WWII 98k repro will work since it’s the same design
*Mauser 98k Stripper Clips, These are alot cheaper and better than the Dboys.
*ZF41 Scope
*ZF39 Scope this one will require modification to the receiver of the Dboys 98k just like the Mauser one. Just a note ZF39 is the ones most people are familiar with for games and movies.
*Pouches, any Mauser 98k pouches would work. I got mine from Militarytour, its tight fit but great for reenactors.
*Bayonet the Dboys have Bayonet mount like the Mauser one, theoretically it should would.



Ratings:
Compared to what I heard people say on the forum, this is my first airsoft gun for your information

Realism: 3.5/5
*only 2 modes of fire (Safe locked, or fire unlock instead of 3 where safe unlock does not exist)
*No Trades c'mon you clone peoople's design why not real gun's trademark?
*Low quality wood in my opinion, felt like plastic to me
*Shells design is cool except the stripper clip aint

Handling: 3/5
*Constantly have feeding problem where the shells did not enter the chamber properly and stuck
*Ejecting shells doesn't work unless you pull it back fast

Newb usability: 3/5
*Its cheap...the gun is accessory arent (I got 60 shells and 12 clip and it cost more than the gun it self without the import fee. The the number of clips a German Soldier is issue with by standard punch space.)
*Spring design = More Reliable, however the shells makes it otherwise unless "load one shoot one"
*Accuracy, dont expect to snipe people with it I would say 50ft-75ft as max
*Its not really a hot gun, most site would probably allow the FPS even if its auto (sorry newbie does not have chrono)

General Outcome: 3.5/5
+Its a shell ejecting gun great for plinkers
+It is the cheapest gun and the cheapest accessory available
+close to the real steel except the bolt cocks when you lift the bolt in real steel, and theres not trademark
-Made in China, poor quality, accessory is poor durability. Shells dents easily.
-Poor accuracy from 3 stage barrel and crappy hop up, makes this an infantry weapon if you really want to skirmish with it.

What is this gun suitable for?
Plinkers:
*If you can't afford buying 8mm Mauser or reloading it get the airsoft 98k. If you can buy the 8mm Mauser 98k from surplus, Its most likely cheaper $500 would probably get a decent working one. Reliability of a 64 years old gun is probably better than a new Dboys
*If you don't want to go to range and would like a backyard shooter pick this

Wall hanger:
No reason, if its displayed you need to have it displayed according to a non-restricted firearm, so a Tanaka or 8mm Mauser 98k beats it.

Skirmisher:
*Infantry, Wanna meter stick for your rifle? Want to take care of your $3/bullet? Negative to both rule out this one
*Sniper, Wanna inaccurate gun? Rule this one out Go for tanaka its better with since stage barrel, and adjustable fps

Newbies: If yes to the following pick this
*Want a rifle that is close to the real operation?
*Not planning to skirmish?

Misc Pictures:
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YouTube - D-Boys 98k Stripper/ Charger Clip Review

Yeah, I'm definitely going to get one of these for plinking/collection. Good review. now you use this thing in games?? what do you do about loosing the ejected casings?

great review. just FYI, tanaka is still in production. it is still possible to get their Kar98k. I highly suggest you pick one up. they are great!

As I said, the shells are pain in the ass to baby sit for plinking as they get scratch and dent easily already, games probably makes it worse since a bullet is about $3

Thanks for point it out, edited. I'm not planning to get tanaka simply its too expensive and Im almost done my basic reenactment kit. (Saving money for tuition, hk usp .40S&W/ hk45, tw5)

awesome!!so shame that having never seen anyone review WW2 weapons before

I was just thinking, does anyone have dboys 98k or heard of the dboys using real steel Muase 98k stripper clip? Im just courious as the Dboys stripper clip it self is umm....whats the word? crap More and more of mine goes into the magazine easily.

Yeah, I do seem to recall that they do work. Check out the reviews on WW2AA.com, there is something on there if I do recall.

alright thanks for the info, I ordered 20 newly made steel (they comes in sets of 20) I'll give it a try, Ill be **** mad if I found it better than the Dboys one.



Updated info

Mine dont work. And they are original world war 2 stripper clips.

Love the 1st pic (very nice), I use my Dboys K98 for display- it looks great on the wall/display.

you gotta be kidding me, which part doesnt it work? the Dboys clips are so crap that if it the repro mauser clip can be modify I'd rather use the mauser ones.
I finally figured out how the detail disassemble the dboys. Im wondering if the mauser 98k stock would work. maybe Ill try it out.

I got mine today, they work wonderfully, I'm replacing my old ones only complaint I have is that it is really really really stiff and you need like 100N to push it down. Im guessing did you got the 7.5mm Mauser or the C96 Mauser clip?.
Review updated

Where the hell did you get that flag man?
I almost almost almost had my opas' flag from way back in his day, but not too sure where it went =/

Anyways, I really like your reveiw!
I'm hoping to get one of these fairly soon

got it from militarytour just like my pouches

Well they dont fit in that space for the clip. They just get stuck cuz its too small. Perhaps your right, probably 7.5mm.

As far as I can tell, now that I own Kullwarrior's rifle, the wood is not cheap or soft. The finish on it is. It has been coated with a typical chinese spray shellac or imitation shellac that is tinted. The wood is the same quality as a real firearm. It is Chinese Beech with the same flecks and grain as European beech (which was actually used on some German Kar98ks during the war).

What you need to do is strip the shellac off and apply linseed oil. The stock will be a blonde color.

There is also the possibility of polishing up the feed ramp since it comes apart as a separate piece of the rifle when dissasembled. This will be rather easy.

The barrel band retention is not great. You can pull the bayonet lug right off. A real steel band spring will fit with minor modification and provide much stronger retention. Also I find the bands fit quite loose and will need some shimming (probably with electrical tape underneath) to make the rifle more solid. I will also be replacing the buttplate screws with flat head screws from a real 98k.

These don't exactly seem practical for game use, losing the shells and all. But they seem to have a firm assembly, I'd love to get my hands on one for a movie sometime. Unfortutunately, I'll probably cost somewhere around $600 in Canada.

Amazing review, extremely indepth. Very much appriciate the time you put into writing it.

They're not $600, I got mine slightly above half the price

I haven't exactly seen any for sale, but lately the grand scheme is "import then price x3." But its still a nice gun regardless. - If you know where I can find one without an outrageous price, shoot me a pm.

Can we have some more feedback from those who own the rifle? I am looking forward getting mine but is getting mixed reviews. I also watched all of the vid reviews on Youtube but most of them did a review based on the plastic stock version not the real wood. Can anyone add more info? Thanks!

Its a good collector/wall gun- I have all three versions (ABS/Wood/Gas-Wood)

The shells are pricey and can be lost/damage easy. If you love the Mauser 98k, like I do- Try and get the Gas wood version (better range and a lot more like the Marushin)

Thanks CrackShot! I never knew there's a gas-wood version?? Is it made by Dboys as well or another company? I love Mausers too :) Do you mind give me more info with the gas-wood version? Thank you!!

Yes its also a Dboys, basically Gas is filled into the bolt and power will be around 450 fps with average accuracy (while the other spring "push cocking" based Dboys have lower fps)

I've stripped the finish off the wood and have confirmed that it is Chinese beech. A lower grade and less dense beech than is used on Norinco firearms with some knots and wood filler. It will still make a nice natural oil finished rifle. The oil finish will be much more durable. If you didn't like to see the knots and filler you could easily stain the stock dark then oil so you get the same strength of finish that will be impervious to chipping and peeling (unlike the original finish).

Thank you CrackShot, I should be getting the gas powered one but they seem harder to find than the spring version :(

Submachinehead thanks for the info! I think I'll do as you recommend oiling the stock. I only have a question how do we peel off the finish on the wood? With a file or ?

Use Circa 1850 heavy body paint and varnish remover. Available at Home Depot. Follow the instructions. Takes the paint off the takedown eustacian and stock bolt too. On original German Kar98ks there was no finish on the takedown eustacian.

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i am getting this gun in a few days or maybe today i hope

cool story bro

lol I would probably not purchase one again. They are light as hell because of the cheaper wood and light pot metal. Plus they are not gamable with those shells and unreliable. Might as well get a real K98k (A Russian refurb is about $400) and play with it in your house.

I'd wait for the G&G K98, see how that one turns out.
If it happens not to be that great, you can always mod a VSR-10 into the Dboys K98 and just upgrade the VSR internals to your hearts content.

Few guides here:
http://ww2aa.proboards.com/index.cgi...armoryarchives