WW2 HEER impression
 

WW2 HEER impression

So after the winter of slowly collecting stuff, I think I am finally set for the year.

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very nice.

Great job, love the horsehair pack you have there, they look the business.

what are the stuff on the back just wondering?
Gas mask can,
Sleeping mats
Water bottle
and not sure what the light beige colour stuff is...


Anyways great job on your reenact kit, although helmet seems not right, might be because of the cover

Being 65 years old, the horsehair is still in Excellent condition.

Tornister - Backpack
Zeltbahn - tent/poncho
GasMask
Canteen
Mess Kit
Bread Bag

As for the helmet, like the actual ww2 helmets they have a glare that makes it easier for snipers to spot. I got splinter camo helmet cover.

Very nice. Good job...

The beige thing is a bread bag it looks like he also has a mess tin, water bottle, and a zeltbahn. Looking good. More Germans in Manitoba fighting for the fatherland!!!!! Wooooo!!!!!!

With the young look of some of you re-enacters, you should be moved to Volksturm batallions.

So we've got around 9 German troops in Manitoba? Obviously I'm behind enemy lines as I'm the only Allied trooper here (after Stealth sold his 101st AB impression).

Very nice!!

Looks good, right on par. Pants are well bloused.

looks very nice! where did you collect it all? ATF? or from a variety of sources? also, what Kar98k brand are you using?

I got them from who ever could sell for the cheapest... Tunic/Pants and helmet on ebay from china. Gas can: from someone who was selling off there stuff locally. Y-Straps and Tornister, off of ebay ACTUAL WW2 shipped from Belgium. Helmet cover on ebay from UK. Canteen from someone in the US, paying with Western Union made it not cheap anymore (at least I got it). Everything else was from a local seller, millitarytour.com

www.militarytour.com

the K98 is by Tanaka. Having the Marushin would have been nice but in reviews people who use it are more concerned about not losing the shells then just playing. Yes you lose a bit of the realism affect of it not using shells, but at least you are not bothered to much about firing rounds, and replacement mags are simple to get in comparison to finding the shells for sale.

Needs more Luger!!

LOL

Very nice. I do like it. Not that I'm a WWII expert by any means, but it looks very authentic to me.

Yeah 8 or 9 sounds about right.

the 3 real germans, myself, rob, jasgud and scubasteve. Uhhmm. I'm sure there are another 2 at least out there.

See, don't ever sell off loadouts. Old dreams can come back to life Steve!

On that... give me back my damn k98! arrg

Very, Very Nice but I am more partial to SS over Heer.

The more I see this pic, the more I can see you with a Luger in hand...

Do you have any third line kit together?

Looks great,from what I have seen in pictures,isn't there to be a
blanket over your backpack like a horse shoe.Up over the top and
down the other side?.

I may be wrong, but you may be thinking of a typical load for a US GI.

Source:
http://www.hardscrabblefarm.com/imag...wder/p044b.gif

Don't worry I'm not selling off my load out anymore. It's to bad ass to sell. As for the germans in Manitoba there are bootyourface, Rob, jasgud, thedecider, and myself as SS, the 3 engels representing Fallschirmager and pockets as heer.
A rather healthy contingent.

It is actually a rolled up OVERCOAT. There is a good site that has a lot of iformation for a GERMAN SOLDIER wana-be.

http://www.dererstezug.com/packingatornister.htm

Like all kit items, a soldier would only carry it if they had it in the first place =P

http://www.dererstezug.com/images/diagram.gif
http://www.dererstezug.com/images/tornorig.jpg

I saw it in the docu-flims on my computer.Didn't know the yanks had it too.:cool:

SS for the sweet camo!

Well done! I like the breeches.

What type of Kar98? Or is it real-steel?

tanaka

I see.
It tricked me because I didn't see the chrome extractor plate on the bolt.

Totally my mistake.
Didnt know.
Thanks!!

Very nice

oh they come off real easy.

You only want it back because I make it look good =P

As for the luger, I got to much crap on my belt as it is. Where would I put the holster?

What are the ss ranks on the uniforms for
bootyourface, Rob, jasgud, s. Steve
?

Maybe their portraying the "5.SS Wiking"? Not the "91. Luftland"?

Your question confuses me. What do you mean what are they for?

The only insignia I wear are the...can't remember the german name now, but eagle and swastika, and thats on my cap. the "ss runes" are on my wool tunic, which I pretty much never wear. Way too hot.

I do the ss for the camo. Honestly. If I were forced to pick a division, it would be Wiking, based mostly because they were volunteers, and not "raised nazi's" like Hitlerjugend. AND they're norse. Vikings are just badass!

I think he means the rank insignia there Scuba Steve (shoulder, collar and the upper arm chevrons). If there is 9 germans playing now in Manitoba its almost like the german version of the film The Dirty Dozen. Or in this case "Das Schmutzige Dutzend."

German version would be way better. lol.

Same thing but non (arein) non pure German,push came to shove,they would be
out the door with all other non Germans. The eagle and swastika is called a
BEVO insignia.

it's always great to see another WWII fan around....
its nice, but a few small things would really complete the impression, like a kar98 bayonet scabbard and a dummy bayonet.


i still like my WWII U.S. infantry impression from reenacting...I dont have an airsoft garand though...so no airsofting in that....
I'd post pics, but me and the camera arent on speaking terms.....

[quote=bootyourface;926750]they were volunteers, and not "raised nazi's" like Hitlerjugend. quote]

You might want to read a few more history text. What you think the Hitlerjugend was and what it actually was might be quite different.

And what exactly do you think it was? Boys 13-18 Were trained to use bayonets, dig trenches, defenses against gas and other military skills. They were pretty much brain washed.

We did the same thing in Canada during the forties. Read some fucking books!

That is very high on the list of things to get is a bayonet. The rifle is very imposing in Close Combat, but having the bayonet would make it that much… MORE!

you better not team kill me with a bayonet! you already do with BBs there is no excuse for team kill mercy! :p

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Well seeing that my family LIVED IN GERMANY DURING WW2 at the time!!!!!!!! I'm pretty sure I know what I'm fucking talking about and not throwing around facts I heard from a friend. But whatever. As for bayonets militarytour.com has KAR98k bayonets, trench knife, hiltler youth knifes and so on.

I resent that.

Dont come at me, and I wont shot you =D

[quote=FNG;926802]Sorry. But was the 12.ss not called "hitler jugend"? Was it not a panzer division? Were they not mostly volunteers from the hitler youth programs? I dunno. I've done my fair share of reading. Please, if you're going to say I'm miss-informed, back it up with something so I can be taught right. It MIGHT work a little better when I re-read some books.

As for the swastika and eagle, Double Tapper...I believe BEVO is just a type of stitch used to make the insignia. I just looked over a few books for the last half hour and finally found it. Engel, please confirm that the german is correct. "wehrmachtsadler" taken from the book "Cross Of Iron - The Rise and Fall of the German War Machine 1918 -1945.

So, for the love of god. Correct me if I'm wrong. It angers me that I've spent a few years "wasting" money on books that are ill-informed. Ugh

The_Decider, do you play with the MAA? I haven't seen you out at games. OR I might have, but then you weren't in your german kit. I'm not as hardcore into the replicating it 100%. It seems yours would outshine mine on its worst day. haha

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hahahahaha me and kev where sitting in the bush not moving waiting for the enemy to flank around then you team killed both of us!
we knew it was you cuz your damn kar is silent as all hell !!!
:p

[quote=bootyourface;927039]One of the big problems historically is that the SS used the word "Volunteer" (Freiwillig) but in fact used conscription. The term was used to present a false adherence to the Geneva convention which prohibited conscription in foreign territory. For example, I am planning my kit to be 15th Division, the Latvian Legion, which was a "Freiwillig" Legion but made up of 80% conscripts. In German territory, conscription was perfectly fine of course. So were volunteer divisions.

The more I get into history, the more confusing it seems. I completed my MA last summer and from interviews with former SS soldiers, with reading diaries published and unpublished, most if not all soldiers did not fight for ideological reasons - they fought for their comerades and the foreign Legions fought to keep the communists out (because, especially in the East, the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact had resulted in a year of terror under communist rule).

If someone was going to do an Einsatzgruppen representation or something like that I could see how it would be offensive!

[quote=bootyourface;927039]It was what I see listed every time I see it displayed,so I put the two
together.;)

[quote=Submachinehead;927336]The 15th Division for example was renamed 15. Waffen-Grenadier Division der Waffen SS( from 15. SS-Freiwillige Division), as soon as conscription was introduced in 1944. And the "Freiwillige" was dropped from official use then on.
No Waffen SS unit "hid" behind the volunteer title.
All Volunteer Divisions did consist of volunteers.

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Alright. There is a big difference in Ideology from the 5.ss and 12.ss. Are you denying this? And then are you saying that the 12.ss weren't ideologically motivated?

As for the argument saying that the germans didn't have strong ideological feelings, and were merely serving their country, with the utmost honour? Look into the countless massacres committed by EVER branch of the german forces.

They fought with indifference as to the crimes that were being committed. I'm not denying that a lot fought like professional soldiers, with honour and courage. But their willingness to allow so much bad to happen can't be forgotten either.

Blind compliance is a lot like pulling the trigger.


However. This is about the TWO divisions of SS that I listed. One being the 5.SS, the other the 12.SS. Look at NO others, conscript or not, the 12.SS had hitler youth that filled MOST of its ranks. Kids growing up thinking that Aryan was the only true being that was worthy of living. It has nothing to do with the scouts and other programs ran by the Canadians and British in their country's.

Aside from it all. Conscripted or not. I would feel better about myself portraying the 5.SS rather than the 12th.

Ohhh. I got some oak pants actually. I don't wear them anymore in favor of just the plain old HBT trousers. (not a fan of full camo. Just something about it that doesn't sit right with me)

I got the greatcoat at www.hessenantique.com. they're Sturm made, so they're not as expensive as those other makes...uhm. Forgot their names. It serves its purpose, and feels great to wear.

I haven't played with Davin and what not yet. Not since the MAA and him had their little drama and falling out thing. However, I tried signing up for OP Cold Front, however wasn't allowed to untill they meet me and see how I play. I didn't really liked being pre-judged as a "drop out player", so I doubt I'll be at any op's they host.

I hope you get some pants soon...and come play a few skrims. Just if you do, let us other germans here know, and we'll all use our German kits that day. Then we can be some sorta.. "Battle group Normandy" since we're all different branches and what not. It would make a little sense it being that way anyhow. haha.

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I hear THAT. the AGM mp40 is.. kinda lacking. And I heard a bitch to switch parts and what not. K98 is just not my style. I owned 2, but sold one to pockets. I don't like sitting back, I like being in the thick of it. I just use an ak as an stg44. Meh. it works for now. good thing theres that stg44 out. Just gotta see if its actually worth it.

I really like the look of camo pants/solid jacket. I just find the wool stuff too much for me during the summer. I have no idea how those guys did it.

"Wehrmachtsadler" would be correct Bootyourface.

The 12th SS Hitlerjugend was comprised of mainly of 17 and 18 year olds with the NCO and Officer ranks filled by veteran SS troops who already saw action on the east front. The 12th SS were also involved in the shooting of Canadian POWs after the D-Day invasions.

Had the same problem while signing up for OP Cold Front, had to meet them or go to OP Robin Sage their putting on for boot camp before being allowed to play. :p

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Dude, I'm 40 pounds overweight, have LONG hair, and a beard. I'm the most unconvincing german there is. Crusher caps are by far the best headgear I've seen.

I'm just gonna butt in for a sec... I'm not sure what's going on for FNG Day (When, Where) but if you guys wanna set up a table there then count me in! Now I'm off to find some Khaki thread to match my M41 Field Jacket. Gotta sew on a patch... or two.

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[quote=Krieg;927744]That's false. I'm sorry you are so obstinate. First of all, conscription of the Latvian Legion began in early 1943, not 1944, and immediately after the German invasion of Latvia in 1941, conscription was begun covertly and those conscripted forced to sign documents saying they had "volunteered."

I have several aquaintances who fought in Russia, Latvia, and Germany with Army Group North, the 15th and 19th Divisions of the Waffen SS, as well as family members who fought.

My deepest respect goes out to your family members and aquintances!
I also had some relatives, some are in Russia to this day in a pit.

And can you elaborate with more details about the conscription in 1941, were they for the Waffen-SS? I have to read up on it.
( I completly screwed up the 1944 date, conscripts were called up in 1943 from '15-'24, in '44 a younger age group was called up)

I love my K98. Even for close combat =P

But ya, I think getting a display up for the season opener game would be fun. Ill see what I can find and put together to 'add' to atmosphere.

I used to have all sorts of stuff that would contribute. Like 4 zelts. I sold it all though because the lack in interest in manitoba for ww2 themed stuff was pretty low. I guess i regret doing that now. Way to all of you who are into it keeping HUSH HUSH.

Well, the way they did it as of December 19, 1942 (not 1941 that I know of -sorry my mistake), was they would draft you for alleged "labor" service using the department of labor as a drafting agent, and you were offered a choice of service:

- Auxilliary Wehrmacht
- Order Police
- Waffen SS Legion
- War Labor

Afterwards the draftees were forced to sign that they had joined the chosen service voluntarily. If you chose none of them, you got to visit a concentration camp. This is why I find the word Freiwillig ironic.

Sweet outfits, I only got the modern Flecktarn.

its well worth getting a ww2 outfit... well worth it!