RW's Systema Mp5 PTW Review
 

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Stats:
Capacity: 40 bbs
Dry Firing: No official statment from RW but said it will have anti dry fire on Youtube, magazine said it will have, proto did not
Battery: 9.6V 2400mAh(M16 style)
FPS: M90 ONLY so far (Unique cylinder see pics)
Bore: 6.04mm
Weight: 3.6Kg (2.5kg is real steel note)
Composition: Metal and Fiber Reinforced Polymor
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wow, very nice. not an mp5 guy but thats real well done. m90 is perfect as its mainly for indoors/ cqb. im sur ethey will get it up to 130 tho.

Looks nice, but why is it a whole kg heavier than the real-steel?

2.54kg - I'd assume that's weapon alone, no mag inserted.

Mag inserted with ammunition, it would probably near the 3.5kg weight of the PTW.

anyone know when these will be available?

Checkout the backside of the close up of the top of the mag. You can see the little tab that on the M4A1 PTW trips the bolt catch and stops it from dry firing, so maybe it is just the protos.

I also find it strange that SystemA decided to put their 480 motors in the MP5, they are promoting the 490's in the M4A1's like mad and all 2008 PTW's and a lot of late 2007 PTW's came stock with 490's.

AR PTW > MP5.

Personally, I don't think this one will do as well.. But who knows. I have faith in SystemA. Just not it's CEO :p

doubt it, 8g X30 = 240(bullet) + 300g(mag) would not equal 3.5kg, Guess the weight thing fail this time, maybe if they've use aluminium stead of steel that would be better

not available, it is delay (info said about a week ago) I'm guessing a month + it's probably going to dry stock immediately then Canadian retailer probably going get it bout 6 month later, I'm not sure about the shadow retailer (in ASC, as I'm not verify nor 18 yet)

Most likely, you'll see it by mid-summer at the earliest. Systema is still tooling for production at this time.

looks like it turned out better than people were saying, though i guess you really cant tell at this time

one thing that made me worry is the hand grip part, notice there's only wiring to the battery. This meant that either they did not add the anti-dry firing at all in this verison or the bolt is not going to be functional

End of mag is detected by a tab that lifts at the rear edge of the mag.

Their prototype was a fully tooled pre production product. Not a hand carved model or SLS/SLA/3dprint rapid proto. It looks like all of the injection moulds are finished as I didn't find evidence of hand fitting in the plastic parts (clean parting lines, no manual crafting marks).

SystemA indicates that their first run reserve sales should be released in early/mid March.

this thing looks damn sweet, too bad the battery has to be in the stock, and 40 round mags? wtf?

Did any one else notice the selector switch?!?

It has ALL the positions.

Safe
Single
3 round
Full

Swwwwwweeeeeeettttttt!!!!!

If this is old news, then I apologise for my ignorance.

it pisses me off that they chose to make the cylinders different. I know it is a way to make more money but that alone would stop me from buying it-even if it had the saem gearbox as the M4's.

Its probably from a purely technical aspect I think due to size and placement issues.

Its quite possible it physically couldn't use the same cylinder without sacrificing authenticity.

Also I thought there was rumors of M170 cylinders. The M150's balloon the current M4A1 cylinders because the walls aren't thick enough, that new cylinder design looks FAR stronger. If SystemA can sell standard ver.2 mechboxes prebuild with M170 springs, wouldn't surprise me if they release em for the PTW's eventually, just can't use the same M4A1 cylinder design.

why would you need a M170? that's basically half the power of 22lr, pretty sure for training you would need ballistic armor at that point

do they use ballistic armor for simunition? because i thought those hit allot harder. then again i don't know anything about it. (runs to google)

do the cocking function work like the real steal?

I didn't notice any switches in the cocking tube when I pulled the top off. I wouldn't know if their display model was missing parts though.

The M4 and MP5 have signficantly different space requirements up top. They may have added bulk to the cylinder so they could reduce cross secton in the receiver casting and register to the cylinder assembly. Big variations in wall thickness in castings can cause practical problems like uneven cooling and cracking.

That being said, the springs are pretty easy to change in a cylinder assembly. It wouldn't be much of a benefit to swap an entire cyl assy to change fps when you already have to partially diassemble the top to get at the cylinder. Changing out the spring would be a small increment in trouble to change fps.

Judging from how the top was put together, I'd hazard a guess that it'd take around 5min to get at the cylinder assembly. Not super long and not a heap of little parts, but not as quick as one touch takedown on a M4.

you can do the 'ride the bolt' if thats what you meant. as for the anti-dry fire its highly likely thats how it''s going to be done, but the proto does not have anti dry fire