BB's brands witch are the best?
 

Hey, I've been trying to discover what are the best brand of BB's on the market at first our team used KSC BB's but we had major feeding issues plus some of the tight boared barrel user's were haveing jambing problems, so we switched to Excels (0.23's) and found that they aren't any better, we've had jamming problems as well, I've done a couple serches, only to try looking into BB's to get told this:

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Not to sure whats up with that, but I've been on ASC for a year now and thats the first time it's happened to me, so if some of you out there have any expeirence with a high grade BB or or a better name I would appretiate your comments. thanks Bug.

Thanks I've been contemplateing BB bastards also, thanks again.

i was told metal tech gets their bbs from airsoft elite.

Bug, I use BB Bastard bb's and I've had 0 problems with my tight bore in my CQB, Blair used some on the Ferry and I don't think he had a single problem either. I'll let you try some on sunday if we're playing.

Metal tech and Airsoft elite : 0 problem in AEG so far.

I've sold around 300 bag of those in the past year.

Realy great overall BB.

JF

Bioval have been the best I've ever used. Getting them on the other hand is a chore.
I've used pretty much everything out there, and personally haven't found much difference between any of them. Then again I am a pretty big BB hose and usually just keep firing til they yell "hit!".

I use the KSC perfects, i've never had any issues with them and i have a 6.03 tightbore

As far as I know, BB Bastard, Metal Tech, and Airsoft Elite buy the BB's from the same manufacturer just packaged in different bags. Metal Tech is the cheapest for .20's and BB Bastard is cheapest for .25's.

yeah but the Bastards are double Polish. Fk Silicone they use VODKA!!!

Gaurder BBs suck asshole. They're quite deformed. I just use KSC perfects now// 0 problems with those.

KSC, TM gave me no problems at all. they are the cheapest if you buy them from me, ($18/bag with discounts) The most economical being the KSC perfects.

although i never used airsoft elite, metal tech, BB bastard BBs i only heard praises about them

The new wicked witch brand is awesome

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Strange, I've used 2000-3000 Guarder 0.25's in my G36 with 6.04mm tightbore and zero problems.

As Ibby said, KSC, TM, Guarder, AE, BB Bastard, MT, I can't tell any difference in performance and I've never had a jam, ever, with any brand of BB.

Never had a jam with KSC or Excel.

As long as the inner barrel is regularly cleaned and the hop up rubber lubed on occasion, very few brands will cause misfeeds or blockage, even in tightbores.

I use 6.01 and 6.02mm tightbore with KSC perfect. 0 Jamming.

Regular cleaning on tightbores is a must. Remember any small dirt or debris will cause jamming.

Never had a problem with Excel .25's or Airsoft Elite .25's but airsoft elites .20's I had a couple of jams. Now I if only I had .30's

what brand is best? the one that works in your particular aeg. I've had highly custom guns that where ammo sensitive. My rpk would only shoot excel .2g try anything else and you could not shoot for shit. My M4 likes the guarder .25g.

If your gun has feeding issues with Excel, then you're going to have problems with pretty much any other brand on the market.

Excel BBs have the smallest average diameters of all the BBs I've measured... if you can't feed those, then don't blame the BB - blame the gun.

It's a different story if you have problems with Guarder BBs... those are some of the largest 6mm BBs on the market. Even some Marui magazines have problems loading those BBs (such as P90 and a lot of GBB mags.)

same results w/ 6.03
KSC .2 & .25 =1 w/.25
AE .2 & .25 =0 heard black BBs are different and the guys on my team love the .23g
Excel .2 =3
Toytec .2 & .25 =0 these have been recommended to me by a 6.01 TBB retailer, http://www.deescustoms.com/main.html more on 6.01 TBB in their forums.
Crossman .2 =0 i know. it was all i had
mateba

well this all stemmed from excels jamming in the bb loaders. i sent mine away to jugglez to verify and he said they are odd shaped and jamming in the loaders (KA). we havent had any problems with the guns fireing them.

on another note, i use to use ksc myself in my stock g36, and three team mates with stock tm m16, stock tm g36 and a stock tm sig551; ALL had ksc bbs jam in the barrels, once such incident where (in a g36) it continually jammed all the way back to the hopup, where when the air nozzle moved forward, there were now 7 bbs securly jammed in succession, this caused the nozzle to shatter, along with the hopup assy. thats 4 people in one club alone that had similar problems with ksc. unless the perfects are new style, double polished and quality controlled to 6.03 or smaller i want to steer clear of them.

we prefer to use the .23 so that is why we chose the excel in the first place. just trying to make sure there arent another better brand out there.

Actually no, my BBs aren't the same manufacturer. I stopped selling AE due to quality control problems. Metal Tech seems to be a popular product of late althought I've honestly not used them myself. As Illusion says, if you're getting jams due to diameter, go to Excels and try - if you still have problems, you may have a diameter problem somewhere in the feedpath or barrel. My BB tolerances are slightly tighter but certain aspects of the product's material and construction properties impart benefits such as less jam potential on tight bore barrels and better grouping at distance (this is my own testing). Way back before I used this manufacturer I ordered in rice bags of vanilla BBs and had serious consistency issues, which is what turned me into a BB nazi when it came to selecting my manufacturer.

I can't really say scientifically which BB is better and I lean more towards Vondnik's interpretation. I do know that I've not had any bad feedback from my customers and I've handed people bottles and highcaps in the field of my product when their guns jammed on something else and it fired fine with my product- this is actually how I got early converts to my product.

In other words go with what works and what your gun likes... and hopefully thats mine! ;)

Definitely. You can really see the difference when you use them in maruzen shell ejectors. My M1100 rev just chokes on excels because they fit much more loosely in the shell grommets and pop out as the gun cycles, cramming themselves into the inner workings. If you fill the shell completely (10) and shake it, you can hear the BBs rattle around inside. I have trouble even fitting 10 AEs into the shells; the last one doesn't quite stick in all the way because of the larger diameters. I find that AEs work best in my M1100 so far.

My GBBs love the excels though. Fewer jams and cleaner cycle on them. Maybe I should file down the feed lips a little :p

I use crossman in my TM gun and it works great and is cheap

You guys that have problems with KSC BBs... are you using

KSC
or
KSC PERFECT?

Yes, there is a difference. The company has two lines, one being a cheaper/economical version of the other, but suffers from some consistency issues and aren't as tight in groupings at longer range.

I personally use KSC Perfects. Smoother surfaces than AE or Guarder, with 100% compatibility in all guns I've used and spherical concentricity is also on par with AE/Guarder.

as long as you dont have this you should be fine lol. those come from the paintball shop where i bouht my crapsoft 2 years ago

Same here, used everything from the most expensive bbs to bbs from Crappy Tire in almost every AEG and GBB made by top manufacturers, and zero problems. My WA Infinity has an accurate tight bore and has been firing what ever I put in it for over a year now... lucky? Maintain those guns fellas :)

Well I would like to thank everyone for this info, since I'm in charge of the team BB order, it's quite interesting to hear from ya'll. To be honest the real only problems that we've had with the Excell 0.23's BB we now have, is that we had a couple odd shaped ones. I was just hopeing that maby I will try some of the other brands for our next order. We as a group would like to stay with the 0.23's and since I've only been able to find the Excell Bios to have them, that is what I went with. If there are perhaps others out there, who may carey the 0.23's I would like to hear about them, thanks again. bug- team swat. I personally never had any problems with jamming, other team members have.

I'v never had any prob's with KSC perfect's or the AE both .25's,Cheers!

http://www.airsoftmechanics.com/reviews.php

The best are Marushin Maxi-BB.

I usually use KSC Perfect, very nice BB's.

Support your local suppliers...buy from Bastard or MetalTech. If you can't get BB's from either of those suppliers to work in your gun, then it's your gun.

Don't be cheap and nickle and dime the retailers FFS.

Swatt.....buy Tsunami 0.23's. Whatever other people say, Tsunami is one of the best if not the best brands for bb's out there. Rylands gun would jam on almost any BB, then we tried Tsunami. G&P problem fixed, and they shoot awesome.

I have had lots of problems with both metaltech, airsoft elite, and the regular KSC bb's.

Bad idea. I've seen and have (not Crosman but cheap .12's from Walmart) crappy BB's, just for a cheap springer I have, and you can SEE the deformities and seams on them.
They're probably ripping up your internals like a bitch.

yeah I agree I have seen wal-mart and crossman bb's and they do suck. I only use them in Nades. Plus since most are only 12g they don't fly well and takes allot more hits for ppl to feel em.

I know this thread is a bit old, but I just wanted to chime in with some support for BB Bastard BBs.

I've used many other kinds of BBs: metaltech, TM, perfect and cheap crappy tire stuff. BB Bastard is what I recommend to anyone who asks for my opinion. They're double polished, have no seams at all and are perfect for use in tightbore barrel. Their performance is consistant (which is more than can be said about other brands), I've never had a single feed issue with them and I've never had to worry about scratching up the internals on my guns.

What's even better? They're not any more expensive than other brands ($15/2500 count) and they're made by a member of the ASC community. So not only are you buying a quality BB but you're buying Canadian. What's not to like? :D

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WARNING: If you ever come across these... DO NOT BUY THEM

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I bought 3 of these bottles. Look very closely at the second pic I took. You can see a tiny little chunk of a rough spot. Don't know exactly why that's there but probably has to do with how they were made.

I own a S&W 40F gun and these BBs continuesly get jammed in the mag because those little spots on the BBs simply won't let the BBs through. Baaad BBs.

.20g = high density? nooo
+-0.03 = tight tolerance? nooooo
softair caliber for airsoft? hell no!
lol

lol, exactly.

I use tokyo marui and never have problems with those same with excel these are the best bb's that i can get my hands on.

cybergun bbs shatter... like blow up outta anything over 250 fps(!BOOM!)

Airsoft Elites have jammed in my Madbull AUG tightbore, and sheared off bits of plastic. KSC BBs all the way for me. 0 Problems so far!

brands like TM, KSC, Excel, Maruzen (SGM) are perfect, O problems with me so far even in tightbore barrels.

Never had a Jam period.
Ive used TM, KSC, and BB Bastard.

From what i see, G&P has the cheapest BBs, at 6$ USD a bag for 3500 i think it was. I havent used G&P's BBs but im curious if anyones tried them. for 6$ USD Why arnt many retailers bringing them in?