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PTE. Pyle April 13th, 2006 03:45

Coleman brand propane warning
 
I just bought my second bottle of Coleman brand propane and it seams to be flawed. well that is for our use anyways. in both cases the gas seams to either be to low of pressure. it will barely cycle my slide and emits a huge cloud of gas when fired. I took my blowback chamber apart, cleaned and lubed everything and still had the problem. I then tried a second bottle and had the same problem. works good with duster gas and a bottle of no name gas I got at superstore. not sure if anyone else has had any problems but just thought id give guys a heads up.

-Rubix- April 13th, 2006 03:54

Thanks for the heads up- it would be interesting to know why. Anybody have any knowledge or thoughts on this? (particularly the large cloud of gas...) Inductive effect of the aromatic used to scent coleman propane, perhaps?

PTE. Pyle April 13th, 2006 03:59

im thinking somthing along those lines, possibly some kind of additive. ill try to post a video tomorrow after work. i dont think you will see it at night on my digital camera

thephenom April 13th, 2006 04:09

I've used Coleman for my KSC G18C and my KJW M700, doesn't seem to have that problem. (But I've had the propane since last fall)

PTE. Pyle April 13th, 2006 04:13

i used coleman brand befor to sorry i should have said that. with no problems then out of the blue, maby its just a bad bach. also i just noticed there is a nice white/grey film left on the inside of my slide. it looks cool when it fires but dose nothing practial.

thephenom April 13th, 2006 04:15

Interesting, I was about to go buy another can, perhaps later on this week. I'll try to see if the new ones have similar results.

-Rubix- April 13th, 2006 04:23

Yea- I was wondering if, in the case of companies scenting their own propane, coleman recently changed their aromatic (or perhaps sulfide) group. An inductive effect would make the gas more dense, possibly limiting flow, and causing that large cloud. I'm not too knowledgable about conventional propane though, hopefully someone reading this will have a better idea as to what's going on.

Bender April 13th, 2006 06:19

I have noticed this problem as well. With Coleman I was hard pressed to empty an entire clip of my hicapa with one charging of gas, but with another brand it works fine.

Shrike April 13th, 2006 08:31

Not sure what tempurature you are firing in but if it's cool out my GBB's will not work very well. They shoot 1-5 shots then vent all the gas. Just too cold.

PTE. Pyle April 13th, 2006 21:51

well for me i was shooting them at room temp. and even warmed the mag up to body temp. its the propane not the gun. fyi that crapy coleman propane looks awsome when shooting an m203 shell huge cloud of gas, looks awsome.

gallantcorey April 13th, 2006 21:54

I have always used Colman propane in my GBB's and 203 and I have never had any problems.

Carvs April 13th, 2006 22:09

I have gone through at least 3 cans on my KJW M9 FMU, no problems

mirage13 April 13th, 2006 22:18

Why not just use BernzoMatic? :-D

GunMaster April 13th, 2006 22:38

I use Ozark Trail propane from Walmart. It supposedly doesn't smell as bad as the Coleman brand. The propane does still smell though.

Captain Tenneal April 13th, 2006 23:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by GunMaster
I use Ozark Trail propane from Walmart. It supposedly doesn't smell as bad as the Coleman brand. The propane does still smell though.

It's just a different scent. A little less rotting death, a little more horrifying stench...

But I reccomend Ozark trail if Coleman's going south. They're decent and their adaptors seem to work (I've owned about five bottles now and they all work)

Pvt.Snowball April 13th, 2006 23:14

I also have had this problem too pyle. I just bought a can of Colemans and my 4.3 hicapa vents all the gas out and i get that white film as well. I was wondering what the hell happened, i took out the internals as well and lubed em up and double checked to make sure that nothing was loose, and it still did it.

Only problem now is Someother companies their threads aren't very friendly to my adapter. They can be a real bitch to screw on. and somtimes the nozzle doesn't stay in, always falls out.

What other companies do you guys recommend if Coleman isn't working anymore?

GunMaster April 13th, 2006 23:22

I reccommend Ozark Trail propane. I have had no problems using it with my TM 4.3 HiCapa.

Pvt.Snowball April 13th, 2006 23:52

ok, yea its weird, just as i got on asc i was testing my 4.3 which is not even 2 months old, just had a new custom shop slide installed and the damn thing stopped firing, and there is this white film. (no it isn't from the spray when it's cold, this film actually is sticking on until you clear it off)

MadMax April 14th, 2006 04:05

Where are you guys buying propane? Has Coleman started packaging blended gas?

I've used Coleman with good effect for quite a few cans now.

sneeekey April 14th, 2006 05:05

Just to verify...the innovations adapter will work with the 'Ozark Trail' container, correct? Just in case Coleman does go to scheiss??

Kid April 14th, 2006 09:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by sneeekey
Just to verify...the innovations adapter will work with the 'Ozark Trail' container, correct? Just in case Coleman does go to scheiss??

Yup.
They work on all those little cans, the mini-welding cans too.

I use the tall and skinny Mastercraft bottles. In the blue bottle.

ex April 14th, 2006 10:38

I picked up a bottle of Coleman Propane last night at walmart (before I saw this thread) and upon reading this I got curious, so I loaded up two hicapa mags and they worked great and the gun shot normaly with no white cloud or discharge. It sounds to me like you got a bad batch or there is something affecting the performance. Good luck.

CDN_Stalker April 14th, 2006 10:42

Possibly phasing in a different batch? Not like every single bottle in stores right now came the same day. I'd be curious if they did change it. I've never had any problems with the brand or their product, but be good to know if that consistancy will stay in the future. I might just go with the blue torch bottles from now on, just because they take up less room in my duffle bag among the rest of my gear.

[Avtomat] April 14th, 2006 10:52

Ya i use Benz-o-Matic too. nice sleek tanks.

Captain Tenneal April 14th, 2006 12:18

I've noticed that Coleman has recently released some of their propane with brown lables vs. their normal white-green labels, is there a 'New Improved Formula' or something? Or are they just going on a new marketing trend?

CDN_Stalker April 14th, 2006 13:07

This looks like a job for Super MadMax! If anyone, HE will get to the bottom of this!

PTE. Pyle April 14th, 2006 14:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax
Where are you guys buying propane? Has Coleman started packaging blended gas?

I've used Coleman with good effect for quite a few cans now.


well i got mine at wallmart and i also have the problem with the gas leaving a white film on everything. its not hard to clean off but it is a bit of a pain. i am going to call coleman and find out if they have made any changes to their gas dont know how sucessfull i will be but ill let u guys know.

btw. the label on my bottel is a brownish colout there is a series of numbers on the back of the label they read

tc-39m nrc 16-20 m1110
dot-39 nrc 232/290 m1110

MadMax April 14th, 2006 14:56

I'm going to have to find me a car and visit a Walmart. I haven't found a can with brown on the label yet. Could you post a pic for me?

PTE. Pyle April 14th, 2006 15:00

i will in a bit i have to go to the store and get some batteries for my camera

Snake Eyes April 14th, 2006 15:36

i jus bought one of those brown lable colman cans. my glock18c is doing fine. i think u jus got a bad can.


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