Scar light tokyo marui or VFC ?
 

hey all , been looking into getting myself my first AEG after about a year of playing with my WE tech scar l GBB but don't know what is the better half of the AEG version . I have been looking into the recoil shock tokyo marui version or the VFC version and not sure what to do, anyone got some more pros or cons or have any of you guy's operated any of these two systems would like the feed back thanks

cheers

Marui = Proprietary recoil shock engine, VFC = Standard V2 Gearbox

Nuff Said...

tho with the Marui its a good stock gun, you're limited to play indoors with it cuz once u start upgrading the spring, its gona take stress on parts then you gota get other parts specially made for it etc.

VFC SCAR runs a standard v2 gearbox that has tons of parts readily available for upgrades.

Another thing to point out is the TM Scar use proprietary magazines (even though there is an aftermarket part to fix that) while the VFC Scar uses the standard M4 AEG magazines. I don't have much experience with the Marui Scar, hell I've barely seen any of the TM recoil shock AEGs, but I own the VFC Scar-L for about 2 years. What i can tell you about the VFC Scar is that they are good quality AEGs and will last you for a long time. With my VFC Scar, I have a bit of rust popping from games during the rain, broke the wiring to the fuse (which I fixed by literally jamming it back in), lost the pin to attach the buttplate to the stock (also fixed with a help from a twig), and I broke the hopup dial during a big milsim game which was soon fixed by a replacement. Did all of that stop the Scar? Hell no, it kept working till the end and to this day, I have yet to open up my gearbox for the Scar mainly because it's not broken yet.

well then i didnt know about the marui mags being fixed like that

I recommend the CA Scar-L proline. But the VFC is a great choice to

now is the VFC version full metal upper and a polymer lower ? and would it be able to go straight li-po off the bat ?

*every* gun can use lipos. If you get the correct voltage.

i recently got the VFC Scar-L and i love it. Yes it has a metal upper and polymer lower. I haven't gamed with it yet cause of school and work in the way. xD hopefully in the summer i can come out to one of the games.

Well my vfc scar h was a piece of shit that i had to fix every game and did not feed off it's propiraty fagile as hell midcap... While my tm guns are all over 10 years old.... Nuff said

Only upgrade required are a spring, metal bushings and a twist tight bore barrel.

In all honesty my opinon is based on 1 vfc versus hundreds of tm guns over the years but my inital contact was bad anough to stay clear of the brand all togetter. I own over 15 airsoft guns anf only abouy 6 work properly.... All tm based gund.. G&G and g&p wont feed, ca never finishes a day without breakbg something, top lmg are tempermantal beasts once you upgrade de shit out of them, dboys well it fell appart. Call me old school but I like what works... And for the moment I have yet to find a brand that is a durable as the original
Tm guns. I have not seen the tm
Scar but for for me the choice is easy.

Yes. For trouble free and playable out of the box =TM.

The problem you have deals with the fact that you have a -H not a -L. Never expect to game well with something with proprietary parts. The vfc light is an excellent choice. The TM one I would get to play around the house and practice mag reloads for gas guns because the TM has the bolt catch simulator.

I would recommend the VFC any day of the week.

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as i said, TMs are the best guns out of the box if you don't touch the internals at all. But having said that, you are limited to indoors with the 280 FPS it comes standard. Upgrading it will cause problems just like any gun out there. its not like you can throw in a spring to shoot 380 and its gona be all fine. it may be able to take the beating i don't know but still......

plus vonduik's TMs are the old TMs not the recoil shock stuff completely different systems

Have any of you actually owned a TM recoil shock system or just heard this and that?

I would like to own one, but hard to source in country.

yeah i was gonna say good luck tryin to get a TM here cause of the low fps itll be hard to import.
that said if you can get one in order field it outdoors you need to swap the spring the bishings probably the piston and piston head and prolly the spring guide while your in there, then the motor may need an upgrade to run efficiently, then as good as tm's are stock the parts are made for sub300fps so you may as well swap the gears too.
as far as the vcf, i seen a cpl scar l and s bunch of 416 and a few 417's and they wer all beastly guns that didnt need nothin out of the box in order to game

Ive got a marui scar h and its tons of fun, expensive though. If your playing indoors it'll probably outshoot the VFC, but with 300fps you can have all the accuracy and consistency in the world but you still can't hit things at as far as a 400fps gun.

As for upgrading its all speculation as to how well or not well it would go.

A side note, I was out today in the cold and it seemed like everyone was having hopup issues with the cold weather, be it g&p, magpul, aftermarket and systema however mine was working like any other day with fantastic consistency.

If you want great accuracy and consistency and mostly the novelty of a (very) light recoil the TM is the choice but VFC would be more reasonable for price and out of the box high fps reliability and probably aesthetics as well and not to mention- its much easier to get.

So you just have to pick what you fall into now.

I have a G&G SCAR and it runs great. Totally stock out of the box, it's my go to gun.

well i really appreciate all the feedback on the vs between the two but i think im leaning a little bit more towards the VFC seeing as 1. mag compatibility if i run out there are probably about 30 other guys who can throw me a spare 2. affordability i mean where i can get it its only 475 which i this is a sold price , i can get the tm shipped here no problem but after custom taxes and all the fun brokers i'd be losing in my mind and 3. V 2 gear box is a very good start to a table of upgrades

I can name more than one player that have sub 300 fps guns that will hand you your ass outdoors while shooting .2g. High FPS does not equal performance and will NEVER replace skill.

How many tm guns have you upgraded? I have upgraded more than 100 of them over the past 10 years and can tell you that you can drop a systema m120 stainless spring in a tm gun without any problems if you replace the nylon bushings with metal ones and shim the thing correctly. Yes the gen 2 box is fragile(no winter play, and minimal dry fireing. It will break but replacement options are plentyfull) but the gen 3 will run this setup for millions of bbs..(have 3 guns that can attest to that, stock everything but metal bushing and upgraded spring).

Granted I have yet to deal with the new gens of tm guns but from experience very rarely does TM put out a system that sucks.....

Agreed and lesson learned....again

400 fps does NOT equal range and accuracy... it equals primarly force of impact, punch thruw power and travel speed PERIOD. At the moment I've been getting excellent results with a 340 fps spring with metal bushings and a tanio koba twist bore barrel over any other setup I've tried over the years ( from high fps ftk kits to basic spring bushing upgrades with regular tight bore barrels)

Upgrade the player before upgrading the gun...

Did you say a twist bore barrel? Where did that come from? Details please.

vondnik i'm not an idiot and your just being condescending explaining the obvious. You've twisted my words and managed to dumb it down enough to convince yourself you can talk as if I don't know anything.
This is a thread about what gun he should purchase not about insulting me.


@OP
Good choice, my only recommendation is wait for something to fail before upgrading as it seems like the VFC(like most of their products) come strong out of the box :)

My H SSR has thousands put through it and still works flawless. It is my favorite DMR.

I'd go with a vfc or even a g&g all are v2 gear boxes and are very easy to work on and are a lot cheaper than getting a tm one which is proprietary everything.

Although G&G have the trades, VFC has better exteriors.