ASC Deal Gone Sour
 

Well, I've been burned for the first time,
buying on ASC, and since the seller is
being less than cooperative I thought it
best to leverage community opinion.

I will re-list the Macbook tonite, after
I take pictures and write an accurate
condition report, in case the seller
doesn't change his stance.

Back Story:

I get a pm from 88dechmustang,
offering to sell me his used mac
mini and or macbook. Makes
sense since I posted a wanted
thread for a mac mini.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=108742

I was interested in the laptop
since it was new enough to run
the apps I need, the g4 mini is
too old, I need Intel processors.
So I begin the process of asking
about the specs, because the
stuff that was original listed was
slightly incorrect.

Here begins the PM trail:

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The big mistake, on my part:

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To be fair the Macbook was being sold
at a low cost but once you factor in the
cost to replace/service an optical drive
and a dead battery, items on Kijiji are a
better bet. Not to mention, the outer shell
is heavily scratched, and dinged all over.
Underside appears to have a few surface
splits or minor cracks, and is discoloured
from dirt. The inside frame has dings, the
screen has a scuff in the center and some
kind of colour damage to part of the
bottom center. All ports and openings on
the shell are a little roughed. Nothing
else included but a dirty power cable. I've
since given it a wipe down, so it will look
much better in my pics to come than it
did when I first got it.

Seems like others have had bad deals with 88 before where the item description did not match items received.

His replies seem very defensive towards you for no reason and has dodged about every question you asked about the condition classifieds.

His privileges on this board should be revoked.

judging by those post, you made the mistake to send him money without any pics. you demanded pics, you should have waited for them, no pics, no deal. Clearly he lacked the common sense that you wanted pics and completely avoided your demand, making him a bad seller.
However, the worst is on his side. A fucking kid? Info not put in. Info you badly needed to know.

Thanks for this, won't buy anything off this guy for sure.

Shitty deal bud, but you did buy something without having first seen it. Its buyer beware in a private deal like this and you took that risk. The jammed disc and dead battery not being mentioned (to the knowledge of the community) should be more a matter than the appearance.

Yup, that's guy's previously on my "Do not deal with" list after I saw 2 of the items that were in "like new condition" come to two of my friends.

I don't see why not. Feedback is feedback. Did you already leave positive feedback?

Please do leave appropriate feedback, let others know your bad experiances with the seller so they can be avoided.

You should edit out your address if your posting in a public forum who knows who may get their hands on it, now I know you live a couple of main intersections west from me =P

Lol this guy, they don't call him 88douchemustang for nothing, potato Bob and others have told me of bad dealings with him, avoid like plague!

funny how it takes threads like this too get people posting their past bad dealings.

ALWAYS LEAVE FEEDBACK

Thanks for the support, and I do
know part of the problem is that
I went forward with the deal after
not getting the pics or answers I
requested, So I take some of the
responsibility. Usually ASC is a
safe place to trade/buy due to
the trader rep and community
backlash.

That shipping address is my work.
Come stalk me there if you like,
has a nice park across the street ;)

After deciding to keep the laptop
last night, I took all the screws
out of the sides, in an attempt to
remove the optical drive, found
there are some holes without
screws under the battery so I
believe there's been attempts to
take it apart already. That would
explain the roughed edge of the
keyboard plate, a flathead seems
to have been used to pry.

After lifting the keyboard on one
side I could see why the drive
wasn't letting in a disc, not cause
there's one stuck but because
the slot was blocked by plastic
tabs. These tabs usually face up
to soft-lock the keyboard plate,
but 2 of them had been moved,
or put back in the wrong way.
So the drive is now working
after a couple hours of fiddling.

I was intending to buy a mac
mini to run music and a poker
timer in my living room, this ol'
beater will suffice.

Edit: well I've spend the past
few hours trying to mount an
OS install disc, barley mounts
a Snow Leopard disc, won't start
from it though.. Leopard disc
won't even read, just spits out...
this drive is shite. The former
user left everything password
protected. Time to get a firewire
cable and link it to my tower.
The fun goes on and on!

Good to know you can survive with what you got, Hope that guy gets burned real hardcore in a deal and get ASCs support through his problem with only "karmas a bitch" comments.

Don't forget to leave some feedback for him so no one else gets burned.

Due to the number of negative feedbacks, the seller's AV status has been revoked.

On a sidenote, the feedback system is there for a reason: leave the damn feedback, isolated incident or not. Even now, some people have piped on this thread but still fail to leave feedback as intended.

wow, I know this guy... he WAS the tachshops gun tech IIRC. He lives one city over from me but I don't think he ever comes out to games anymore.

Anyone want me to talk to him if I see him? See if I can remember what he looks like lol.

Personally I would think if someone screwed you over you'd want other people to know..

I have completed the negative feedback trader rating but what's to stop the guy from leaving ME a negative trader rating as retaliation?

This rule:

damn I was gonna stalk you and steal your guns =D

I've heard from numerous people around town that he is a total douchebag, and that some of the guns he's sold around the okanagan area have been fucked when he's stated they were perfectly fine. Might have to post or link this on the Airsoft Kelowna forums to let people know.

wow, how can this guy live with himself. To rip so many people off and feel nothing? Carma better bite this guy in the ass for life.

I got burned by this son-of-a bit once before and I kept my mouth shut thinking it was an isolated incident = WRONG!
Tell you what mister 88dechmustang, time for you to go pound some sand!

Is it too late to leave a negative trader rating on this guy?
I purchased a Maruzen P99 off the guy last year and he claimed it was in 'collectors' condition and that it function/fired just prior to the sale...when it arrived the gun would not fire/cycle at all and the mag leaked! I demanded my money back but he only offered to have his 'gun doctor' fix it! I declined his offer and requested a compensation payment for repairs, which he did eventually come up with almost 2 months later...this guy is a shady character and I DO NOT recommend that anyone purchase a damn thing from the man!



why dont u put down the puchace price u paid for the gun
neg feed back un deserved i gave u money back because u were not happy.


And in responce to k town -Jason ur good buddy charges out the ying yang for repairing guns--i have helped out alot of people on these forums and in kelowna....... Comment.not justified

i also have purchaced an ass lkoad of items off people - money right away no screwing around -IE bob the angry ? he ripped a ton of people off for money...again mentioning him and me in the same sentence not even close

Broken wings - leaves me neg feed back never sold him a single friggin thing

wow if u read my last responce to Safx i said ill see what i can do...LOST MY FRIGGIN JOB>>>>>>>>>i dont leavem hangin....ill try to give a repyment for the drive.........mac books are 1500 bucks 250 sold to him????????????????
Kevorkian_ it was not 2 months u ass just checked my bank records so get your story correct before u guys try stiring crap

xpolychinelx Fri June 11, 2010 Positive got a great part, great deal, fast shipment
deal with this guy
xandrewx Wed May 26, 2010 Positive A+++ NO BS, would recomend, cheers
deng_yq Mon May 10, 2010 Positive Excellent buyer, nice to deal with. Thanks.
warbird Tue April 27, 2010 Positive Quick comms!
fi3re Mon April 19, 2010 Positive Good comms, quick payment A+
Beowulfe Fri April 16, 2010 Positive Good buyer. Good communication. A+
highny Sun April 11, 2010 Positive Good trader, got what I ask, just like the picture! Great trade!
oOMuDOo Fri April 9, 2010 Positive AK Grip, fast ship.
Thanks sir.
delta76 Fri April 9, 2010 Positive Fast shipping, item as described A+!
arnold869 Fri April 9, 2010 Positive great buyer, good communication, fast payment. A+++
Dirty Deeds Fri April 9, 2010 Positive Item as described, fast shipping, and great communication.
Nosforatoos Mon March 29, 2010 Positive Traded parts for a pistol smooth transaction would do it again nice guy
pancakedestroyer Wed March 24, 2010 Positive Fantastic buyer, great communication, fast payment. A+
HKGhost Mon March 22, 2010 Positive Bought a stock from me and everything went very smooth. Fast payment with good comms. Good buyer and will do business again.
Donster Thu March 18, 2010 Positive Fast payment and good comms.
Invasian Tue March 16, 2010 Positive bought my old cag36c fixer...smooth transaction, solid buyer.
sandman Fri March 12, 2010 Positive quick payment, recommended buyer
naminator Sun March 7, 2010 Positive FANTASTIC BUYER! HIGHLY RECOMMENDED WENT BACK IN TIME AND PAYED BEFORE I LISTED ITEM. Not really but payment was instant!
paulwes83 Sat March 6, 2010 Positive Great buyer, super fast payment and good communication. A+++ all the way!!!
Thenooblord Wed March 3, 2010 Positive good buyer, fast payment
cohda Mon March 1, 2010 Positive great comm, nice guy, highly recommended buyer
Grattoj2 Wed February 24, 2010 Positive bought a front end kit. This guy knows that he wants.
ybrik Tue December 8, 2009 Positive Quick payment, easy to deal with and great buyer!
ronin49v Sun November 8, 2009 Positive Great guy to deal with, communication was fast and responsive. Had a minor problem and he resolved it immediately. I will deal with again with no hesitation.
T6chan Sat October 3, 2009 Positive received payment. bought some dummy rounds off me.

I enjoy reading your posts without pausing, its like a failtrain. Keeps on chugging..

Well the train seems to be running out of track real fast by the looks of it.

I am also a moderator as well mustang, so that comment goes both ways. And I stand behind what I say because its true. I wouldnt involve myself in this matter unless I had truthful info to add. Power tripping isnt gonna make your state look any better.

Making threats on forums: It'll definitely make you look like you're in the right.

Making threats on forums specifically about other forums: It'll make you look incredibly petty and like you're in the right!

A masterful tactic, indeed.

If I were you id be speaking with other moderators to see about having his mod status taken from him.

people spreading untrue rumors ok in all your eyes
iam not threatning ,just dont come across like u speak for everyone

This guy contacted me to buy a switch assembly a while ago, it went something like this:

88: Hey I'll take it

Skladfin: Sorry someone local wants it and I'm going to let go of it locally, it's easier. Sorry about that.

88: Ya whatever no skin off my ass.

This kind of attitude, in addition to the wordings, language, and power tripping, as well as his negative past dealings, CLEARLY displays him as a man of lies and dishonesty - in general, not someone you'd like to be involved with.

after 4 or 5 contact points u tell me u sold local

done with this site thanks

.. 4? 5? It was 1.

I clearly recall you contacting me first, I replied, but I did not receive a reply in a day and half exactly(and seeing that you HAVE been online multiple times during this time) while local offers were coming in willing to take it right away with other items as well. And we did NOT agree to a deal with this one PM either.

how does that make me a dishonest man Skladfin?
NO SKIN OFF MY ASS??that comment is dishonest??

why would i get banned for sticking up for myself

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out

Constant misrepresentations of items, having a generally hostile attitude, making threats to others, as well as trying to insult other members in a laughable childish/poor way. Its coming, and dont be surprised when you see the magical Private message pop up come saying you have received an infraction followed by BANNED. You have yourself helped tarnish your reputation here with you ridiculous comments.

so explain how selling MAC laptop that is worth 600.00 in ok condition and i sold mine for 250 thats in USED condition not new not even perfect, never stated that....its @250.00

When a AIRSOFT gun goes for a thosand and some guy sells the same thing for 200 does he have to explain every single thing no....ull just buy it.....
linching is bruttal on this site

all i have done is stuck up for myself,what about everyones eleses rediculious coments

many people have stepped up here to say the items they, or people they know have received from you arent usually what was described as far as condition wise, and not only that you said the laptop was fine, no problems and Light damage, guy has to replace the optical drive and the battery cause someone jammed a disc in there, not to mention he didnt get the original OS CD.Many people have also called you a douchebag, and I can see why now. Also you skimped on the pics after the guy asked, very clearly for detailed pictures, you didnt even so much as touch that subject, your lies are like a 5 year olds, or when you go to trade something for cash at a young age, "yeah its fine see its cool (Hype it up a bit)" , then you sell it then before you know it someone is dissatisfied because it wasnt what was described and you then refuse to give a refund cause you already did the transaction. Your acting like a child man.

and i also said i would do my best to give him a refund on that part
just like if anything else including the gun that i sold to kevorkian
and just like he stated i gave a refund

Don't you see a trend in your actions here? Look a little closer to home. Me thinks thow dost protest too much.

i agree iam not winning nothing

sorry for my comments was just getting excited

i have agreed to do what i said just like what i have done in the past if someones not happy i try to make it better.
again sorry

Not judging or getting in the middle of this, but here's some food for thoughts:

It's generally healthier to simply state the truth about the item, not leave anything out and then save yourself later problems LIKE THIS.

Simply putting an item for cheap doesn't mean anything (it does indicate that something could be wrong, but don't let it be a surprise to the buyer).

Let it be $5 or $5000, it doesn't matter, it's not only proper business attitude, its also being honest.

Little simple things to save you trouble.

Cheers.

P.S: Your signature doesn't help your case lol.

I asked you to disclose the condition
& anything wrong with it, you simply
said you don't abuse your stuff. I'm
pretty sure most people would take
that to mean it's in fine condition, so
no need to describe anything. Claiming
it was adult used, is one thing, then
telling me it was your kids part time
toy is another. It's also nice to let
people know when you've tampered
with the the insides, why did you open
it up in the first place? That's the kind
of thing people should know before
they buy. $250 sounds like a good deal,
until you factor in all the headaches,
TIME and extra cash I'll have to put in,
just to get the book to a decent state.

An old beatup Macbook from 2007 is
hardly worth anywhere near $600.
The newest unibody Macbook sells
for $1050 on apple.ca. That includes
the perfect more powerful machine,
a working disc drive, functioning
battery, software discs, warrantee,
and a clean drive not a password
protected junk heap.

http://store.apple.com/ca/browse/hom...co=MTM3NTM1Nzk

When I'm done buying a battery
and replacing the drive I could
have bought a better complete
Macbook package off Kiji for the
same money, or simply one in
need of a battery but in far better
condition and better specs:

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-s...dIdZ222661832#

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-s...AdIdZ222379220

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-s...AdIdZ219021375

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-s...AdIdZ218307640

There were a couple going for $400
a few weeks ago, but of course they
sold quickly.

I am sorry to hear you lost your
job, so I won't be asking for any
help from you with costs to repair
this machine. And remember I did
offer to return the item at my
shipping cost. You could have done
the right thing and avoided all this.

If you try to make things better why wouldnt you let the guy have a refund and give back the damn MacBook? And ending your PM's with him, starting your message with "listen Pal", not to smart on your part. Your messages are filled with errors and snarky remarks which obviously shows rushing and panic like you need to cover your ass because you know that you have ripped this guy off. Your not helping your case.

And I agree with Ronan, your sig really doesnt help your cause.

his sig is removed, what was on it that was bad?

Just take a look at the screen shots on the first page. "Go pound some sand"

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...m=pound%20sand

Mods can we please get this trashed so it's not cluttering up the General section? That is of course if Safx is satisfied and has obtained some measure of satisfaction with this endeavour?

Mods I'd also take a look at the retaliatory negatives he's left other buyers as well e.g. The professional where he actually told the guy to "go fly a kite" not unlike his signature.

I reported him for this a while back but nothing was done.

I'm looking into various claims made and inappropriate feedback will be handled.

88dechmustang got a 24hr timeout for cluttering my PM box (word to the wise: don't send me 10 f'n PMs in a day to whine about stuff)

also infractions were handed out to some people for posting useless comments: if you aren't involved in a transaction and don't have something constructive to add, stfu.

Over the last two years I have purchased the following from "safx"

-tanaka 870 shotgun
-tanaka .38 chief special
-WA 5.1/3.9 hybrid (chrome infinity slide/bushing set up, 3.9'' frame)
-WA freebird (custom scw2 1911 full metal )
-WA 5.1 custom extended barrel (3.9 frame + rare mag + pro killer extended barrel )

Sold

-WA 3.9 Prime alunium slide (rare)
-WA 5.1 grip

Traded for marushin m500 8mm shotgun.

* all but ONE WA's are magna ( not scw )


100% A+ positive feed back

Wtf?
You come to my house...
You eat my food...
You raid my Fridge and Pantry...

And you dont SHARE the popcorn?

Selfish bastard!

My favourite little gun-whore :)

Mods, feel free to trash/remove
this thread when you're done
investigating other matters with
88. I have no interest in pursuing
anything further with him. Time
to move on.