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SuperHog January 21st, 2013 13:32

Automobile engines and transmissions use A300 series castings (alum/silicon/magnesium).

I highly doubt the airsoft industry use this level of casting.

Arktic January 23rd, 2013 12:24

Another update from inside the trigger box.

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I dremeled away the 45 degree sear and madea 90degree sear instead with a slight backward angle. I did the same to the piston. Both now have 90 degree surfaces and there is no slam firing now.

I sent off all three pieces of the trigger box to get CNC'd from stainless steel. The stock parts are actually very thick and dense. Im sure they will withstand very stiff spring no problem. But having steel parts will be much better in the long run.

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Hectic January 23rd, 2013 13:24

Any luck test fitting the cylender from the vsr yet?

Arktic January 23rd, 2013 13:36

Not yet, Im on leave at the moment so wont be back at work until Friday. Ill grab a cylinder then and test on the weekend.

SuperHog January 23rd, 2013 20:43

Thanks for all the trigger component pics.

Wow....All I can say is 100% proprietary trigger system.

Arktic February 13th, 2013 12:56

Very small update for now. Im still waiting for my trigger sears to come back from the CNC shop. Should have them by Friday.

I received my upgrade parts from WGC Shop yesterday.
http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/...ACTION-PT-PN01

http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/...LAY-PT-PSS10CH

http://www.wgcshop.com/WGC_Shop/imag...ss10sg_low.jpg

Firstly the piston only just fits inside the ARES cylinder. Very very tight and doesn't move freely. Same as the JG Bar 10 I've been using in the interim.

Secondly the Laylax cylinder head doesnt fit either. Its slightly to wide. It only screws in about 2 threads then gets stuck.

I then transferred all the new parts to a JG Bar 10 cylinder and every thing fits perfectly. The Bar10 cylinder also fits perfectly into the upper receiver. I then changed over the bolt handle from the ares to the bar 10 cylinder. Works great.

So in short. The ARES cylinder is UTTER GARBAGE!! Throw it out as soon as you buy the rifle. Actually throw the whole assembly away excluding the bolt handle. The piston, spring guide, cylinder head and cylinder are junk. Replace them with upgrade parts.

solidgear34 February 14th, 2013 09:42

very interesting indeed.....

Madsvg February 19th, 2013 08:36

I've been waiting for a decent review, and Arktic, you truly deliver here ^^

Does anyone have any news about the CO2 or Gas systems that Ares have been talking about?

Arktic February 19th, 2013 09:27

Thanks a lot. Nope no news yet.

I got my Steel sear and trigger arm(?) but after two shots the locking pin snapped in half from the M145 spring.....

So now waiting for that to come back from CNC as well....

SuperHog February 20th, 2013 08:27

It is a good thing you are able to tinker with it and also make up parts to keep it shooting.

I feel bad for other customers that buy it and end up making it a wall hanger once it breaks.

Arktic February 20th, 2013 08:54

Yeah I also feel bad for them. But I am determined to get this thing to work properly!

wilekcmc February 24th, 2013 05:34

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Arktic I have been following your review on the MS700 and like what you have done.

I picked up the MS338 and I really don't see any difference in the two except for the body. Replaced the internals with upgrades. Here is a pic of the stock internals (same as the 700) next to the upgrade parts I picked up.

Arktic February 24th, 2013 11:36

Very nice! Let me know how the trigger box holds up. What spring is that you have?

I recently had my trigger parts CNC'd from steel and its made a big difference.

wilekcmc February 24th, 2013 21:08

Well after two mags the thing started to slam fire on me, you wont happened to had any extra sears made would you?

The spring was to be a 1J but the gun is shooting 1.71J, will need to find a 1J spring do to Japanese law.

Arktic February 25th, 2013 00:27

Ah wow that was quick. I only had one set made unfortunately. Replace the piston with a metal 45 degree piston and see if that helps.


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