They only sell their ACS to US military personel but you can try to call they if you want.

Massif Mountain Gear Company at 1-888-462-7743

The Army Combat Shirt was never issued in large Numbers. I only know of 2 un its it was issued to so be weary when trying to get "Real Deal" Combat Shirts.

That's exactly why I ask, I don't know if he's sold them to anyone in Canada but apparently nobody has one yet.
Of course keep in mind there's only a few people wearing ACU with an OTV who need an ACS in the first place.

PM him(medic23) on Arnie's airsoft. He said that he just placed an order and is accepting request.

I know someone with a Massif deal, and happens to be military, but he's really slow in getting this stuff (I asked him to get them in march), so I'm wondering if theres a faster alternative. I know for a fact once people start coming back from tour they'll be selling their extra shirts on ebay.
Afterall, IOTV's are only issued to military personnel and yet someone managed to sell one on ebay lol

Hey, just looking for some opinions. While wearing ACU bdu's, what colour CIRAS do you think would look best and why, between Coyote Brown, OD, or Tan.

tan, because marines wear CB. Rangers can be seen wearing Eagle carriers in Ranger Green, but hard to get replicas in that colour...and then tan can go good with a desert theme or a PMC theme if needed etc

Awesome.. Okay thanks for the quick response and for the info.

me outside my place in my ACU gear

http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/phot...62401_5191.jpg
http://photos-h.ak.facebook.com/phot...062383_100.jpg
http://photos-g.ak.facebook.com/phot...62390_2171.jpg

I used to have ACU. It was a good camo, but only in dead grass and lighter areas. I switched to Woodland Digital bacause everything turned green during the spring. :)

google acu or go to militaryclothing.com. I ordered my stuff through them very quick turn around time and I had pacthes made. Took about 4 days.

If anybody is interested in purchasing ACUs i always stock propper's Near Infrared ACU and I have one Infrared Issued ACU left for sale. PM if interested :)

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I just got the Coyote Brown CIRAS (Land Version) from Huang and it looks awesome with ACU, Marines or not. And in amongst those millions of pictures Yuxi posted about the SF you can pick out a few CIRAS vests and a couple look like CB vest (It's what sold me on the Coyote brown with ACU in the first place), a few tans and a lot of OD. I'll post pictures soon once I finish my loadout off.

In my opinion the only 2 colors of anything that goes well with acu is foliage green and more acu lol

http://photos-g.ak.facebook.com/phot...23230_4120.jpg

^, +1.

The ACS looks like it'd be nice and cool for hot summer days.

Here are a couple pictures of me at a local game wearing my ACU gear.

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_7740.jpg

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_7811.jpg

It is nice for summer days :D. The humidity down here in Texas is crazy so it's good to have something to wick away sweat.

i know this may not apply to anyone here, but i was doing some last minute ghillie shopping, and ran across some ACU material. im not sure if its real, but i bought it anywayse. its in windsor ontario, at fabricland fabric store. ill have an adress soon

Post a pic. We'll tell you if it's real or not!

I can't right now, my digital camra is broken at the moment. But it dose look almost exactly like the stuff in Casual Friday's pictures, but the tan in mine is a tinny bit more khaki than his.

walmart sells ACU fabric, despite being bad fabric the color is pretty good lol

Geared up
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/435/dsc0001arc7.jpg

Gear off (and sweaty)
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7659/dsc0034axu3.jpg

spider man.. spidyman......oops lol

nice i like the shirt

haha I do feel like Spiderman wearing it

This is my ACU loadout, not totally finished yet.

Sitting in the rear crew hatch of the M113A2
http://photos-h.ak.facebook.com/phot...55607_5997.jpg

Standing in front of the FV433 Abbot Self-Propelled Artillery Fighting Vehicle
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/phot...55608_6484.jpg

Extreme hot weather

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9864/dsc0105pj7.jpg

Here are pics of my ACU Staff Loadout from OP Northern Wind IV:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c2..._226_11544.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c2..._226_29827.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7...080079_001.jpg

Here's is my daughter and me in your ACU set up with a multycam vest ..

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2459/img0963lr3.jpg
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7131/img0961jv3.jpg

looks good but you need to go with either a Coyote tan/ or coyote brown rig or a patterned acu vest, + flight gloves. :-)

+1^^ multicam doesn't match with acu
get yourself any acu vest

here's my IBA, comes with soft armor panel
i got it cheap on ebay :D
[IMG]http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2190/hpim0263iv3.jpg

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...11283_7732.jpg
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...11286_8560.jpg
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...11289_9421.jpg
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...11290_9716.jpg

Get yourself a MICH. It will help the look of your kit.

the MICH helmet is next on my list.

nice pics !the last vehical looks interesting LOL!

Gloves
Take off that weird pouch on your left side
Generally speaking some soldier had drop leg holsters for their pistol (only vest mounted I ever saw is the Serpa)
MICH (as stated)
Too much mag pouches, slap a canteen pouch somewhere in there
and for pimpin' factor put some ESBI hahah

A good start my friend,

And nice flag:)

SHIELD:

yor kit pwns, mine is quite similair ACU / green BH! kneepads / tan boots + gloves / & a ct
CMS-PC rig!

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...Picture003.jpg

Fear it, Fear it I say!

... My real loadout will be photographed in a few weeks. Until then, My accordion will be subsituting my Interceptor vest.

Thankyou for understanding~

Also, I have no clue how to use my moms camera, so blame the blurriness on that.
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as for realism should i get an FLC vest or just directly attach the molle pouches on the vest?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...Picture028.jpg http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...Picture029.jpg http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...Picture034.jpg
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Attach right to the vest. If you have to wear your OTV everywhere you go and inside your base then it's more practical to have the FLC with the pouches overtop so you can ditch the equipment you don't need when your in base.
Mind you it works the same way in airsoft too...

what is the currently issued helmet
MICH 2000 or MICH TC-2000 ?

AFAIK they are the same. And I believe if its not the same they are issued TC's
mine was from a SF dude and it is a TC2000.

I got ACU BDU :P
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/w...o/IMG_2298.jpg


I got it from other person in ASC. pant is little large but I use belt to hold it. otherwise it is good!

now I need ACU hat!

The current issue helmet is the ACH.

Hi,

I would like to know what you honestly think about my loadout. Constructive criticism is welcome.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/57/melik.th.jpg

Click on image to enlarge.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8233/pc130494.th.jpg

im the one on the far right.

sage boots are good, dirty (or camo paint ) the helmet...
and in the first pic the pants seem a different color...perhaps just the lighting.
A few things:
-get some US flags on the vest + uniform
-Avoid black..it does not go well with ACU unless doing a SWAT thing.
-maybe add some other stuff to the OD vest, the stuff out of iraq always looks messy not brand new, but you guys all in all have good looking kits! :)

Get rid of the OD. If you are going for an older ACU look, add woodland instead or a mix of 3 colour pouches etc.

http://i43.tinypic.com/2j4q6v6.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/uslf6.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/28bql1c.jpg

your neighbors must love you:D

My main concern is the OD vest. Is it ok to wear it with ACU ?

No. Not if you are going for a real army impression. Aren't the sage boots airforce? You need an acu cover for your helmet too. Unless you are going for a Seal impression in acu...but I would still ditch the OD vest even for that look.

If you still want green instead of a tan, khaki, or CB go and pick up some Ranger Green(RG), it looks great with acu. Get a helmet cover in ACU. And you will look even more fantastic. And if your doing a SEAL impression you would have to get Khaki/coyote tan or coyote brown instead of the OD, but you wouldn't need a helmet cover.

When using ACU I find it's best to have all ACU everything, the only solid color I've found to work well with ACU is foliage green, because it's a color that's in ACU already.
And camelbak makes a foliage green vest ;) I had one, it's super nice!

KNIVEZS since when where you part of the 2nd Infantry Division? I'm not trying to start a fight or anything.... but I wouldn't wear that patch unless you rightfully earned it... just saying.

He's probably not, but he's making an impression. People dont bitch out paid actors in films when they are told to dress up like an american soldier, patches and all, even in replicated identity (Black hawk down for example).
So why should we be? Let him just wear the patch, he paid for it as he's making an impression that he likes and possibly in respect to the division he's replicating.

Its just a game, leave it at that.
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He probably hasn't gone through basic either so he shouldn't wear arpat, right?
It's just a uniform, as long as nobody wears the patches in public its no big deal

+1

Lets not go here. Its just an impression....a damn good one I might add, makes me wish I didn't sell my arpat vest....I use coyote brown with my ACU stuff.

The acu is clothing, but the insignia deserves proper respect. It is EXTREMELY disrespectful to wear insignia you have not earned. That especially goes for the insignia on his right sleeve. Insignia is only worn on the right sleeve by combat veterns, so it's twice the insult to those who fought and lost friends, and earned the right to wear it with blood. So yes, it is a huge deal.

I disagree. While I can see why people who actually earned it would argue that, I would tend to look at the person's intentions. If the person is wearing it to make an impression, they probably already have an immense amount of respect for that unit.

I again will say, I think it is all in the intent. If the person who is wearing it is wearing it out of respect, their intent is clearly not to anger or show disrespect to those who earned it. If the person who did deserve it is still adamant about them not wearing it, they should say so in a respectful manner, since this person did not mean any disrespect. People who flip out and yell at people over it need to calm down just a bit and realize nobody is purposefully disrespecting you.

'The road to hell is paved with good intentions' It doesn't matter what their intent is, it's still disrespectful. If you really want to show you're respect, take off the insignia.

If you really do respect those who serve, you'd have no problem removing the patches if a service member expresses their dislike, regardless if they say please, or if they yell and scream. And enough service members have said that it is disrespectful to wear unearned insignia in the past.

Those serving wear their qualification badges, rank, and unit tags with pride, they worked hard to earn them. Someone just going out and buying them and wearing them without ever having gone through any of the hard work to earn them is a slap in their face.

You want to wear patches? Make up a team patch, or wear morale patches. You want rank? Make up custom ranks for your team that are not the same as real ranks. It's not hard, and it doesn't insult anyone.

Your 'impressions' and 'loadouts' can be just as authentic without the insignia.

While those are good points, I again, have to disagree.
While it can be disrespectful for some, it can be an honor to others, its a mixed war of oppinions here. And please, dont think your oppinion is rule. Its not, Nobodies is.
If the person wants to wear the patch, let them do it. airsoft is private enough in which it can be considored tolerable to most of the player base.
now, if the goes off wearing the uniform in public and trying to be something he isnt, thats when i would personally step in and considor that disrespectful. But coming from a hobbyists point of veiw, and how airsoft is just a game adults play in makebeleive. it is fine as it is. and just leave it at that.
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LOL an honor... you should start browsing elsewhere than ASC and see how many it pisses off.

And X2 to everything Redhawk said. I just can't see why one would wear patches other than team patches anyway. Let's face it 98% of all airsofters AREN'T doing reenactment despite all they say. I know it's only a game but if we respect soldier that much we shouldn't take away the only piece of equipement that reflects belonging to a certain group.

As for qual patch do I really have to state the obvious???

No, it's not. I have not spoken to a single serving soldier who would consider it to be a honor. Every service member I have spoken to considers it very disrespectful (and I have spoken to many service members and veterns) and the vast majority feel personally offended, even if the insignia is that of a forign military (for example, the US Army).

Actors in a movie is different. It's a costume, being worn as a requirment of their job, it gets checked out from wardrobe in the morning, and returned to wardrobe after the days filming is complete.

Living history is different. Historical, no longer in service, uniforms portraying a certain unit in a historical action (read: an event that took place on a certain day in history) are worn for the soul purpose of informing and educating about significant historical events.

Airsoft is a game. There is zero need to wear insignia. It's not a job, nor is it's purpose to inform and educate about a significant historical event. It's purpose is to be fun for those taking part. A game, a event held in private for fun. Those who attend games wearing insignia they have not earned, whether its because they want a 100% correct 'loadout' or whether they think they're honoring those who serve, are offending those who serve and those who earned their insignia.

If you venture out of the airsoft forums, you'll see that the wearing of unearned insignia is not tolorated and offends service members. You say you disagree, but I don't think you understand. I'm not saying that I think it's disrespectful (though I do), I'm saying that service members are offended by it. It's not my opinion that they are offended, they have said they are.

And if those wearing unearned insignia truly respect those who serve, then even a single service member saying they are offened should be reason enough for them to willingly remove the insignia.

Moving on...
 

Yeah the sage is airforce but they match acu well. My tan boots almost look grey now anyway, LOL.
I thought I saw pictures of the army wearing helmets without covers....maybe they were snipers or something???

So what about guys who do WW2 German impressions? Are you saying they should join the nazi party before they're allowed to wear the nazi party's rendition of the German eagle?

Once you ban the use of one insignia, you have to ban them all. It's not the kind of thing you can have a double standard for.

And I consider airsoft to be a very educational experience, it gives of some small idea of just how difficult it is to stay alive in war and I've gained alot more respect for the armed forces since I started playing.

But I do like how militaryphotos handles this situation; take off the patches before you take photos, or just black them out after. But you can still wear them in game

Its easy to be a hippocrate.

Thread: WW2 Players.

Airsoft is a game, if you dont like the use of insignia then dont use it, get over it and keep comments to yourself.

So long as you are not telling people you are actually in "X" unit etc. thats different.

Agree

Read before you speak. Reenacting/living history is different. I don't use ww2 stuff in airsoft, I use it for living history events.

Historical uniforms are different from present day uniforms. There's no double standard, present day real in use insignia is quite a different story from historical, obselete, no longer in use insignia. It's not about a simple patch, it's about the hard work, sacrifice, and dedication it takes to earn the right wear it. It's about respect for what it symbolizes.

Also, don't try to compare airsoft to real combat, thats even more insulting to vets then wearing insignia.

Do any of you guys have any respect at all for those who sacrifice so much and are willing to fight and die for their country? If so, then why all the indignation at the thought of not wearing insignia when the vast majority of service members have said it's disrespectful and offends them when you do?

If it's just a game, as you say, why do you HAVE to wear real insignia?

Why do you need to make such a big deal out of it? Let people do what they want. Besides, trying to get your point across that its 'indignative' to wear such stuff is pretty much void. People simply won't care. We all have our own oppinions and go by them, Just leave it at that please.
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Yeah stop cluttering up this thread. there was an entire thread on this a while back and the mods had to lock it up as it just devolved into chest beating, dont like it then dont do it.

sage boots + foliage green gloves are cool but I still have a ting for the tan stuff with arpat.

Actually, I'd like my questions answered, thank you.

And I have others to add to those. You say people don't care, which is obvious. So do you guys honestly don't care that you are insulting and disrespecting those who have actually earned the right to wear that insignia? Is wearing a patch for an airsoft game really that much more important then respecting those that serve?

Dude, Dont act like you're speaking for the whole armed forces of the US, Canada or whatever. Of course A lot of soldiers wouldnt like it. But there is also the possibility of others who simply wouldn't care, or considor it as a positive nod in their direction.
Just stop, We just want to post pictures of our impression here, Not turn this thread into trash material.
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Hate to beat a dead horse but for the people who claim to speak for servicemen everywhere, my fiance knows a soldier stationed with the 4-319/173rd Field Artillery(Missile tracking, he didn't get into too much more about his job) in Bamberg Germany, I just spoke with him gained his opinion on the matter of wearing unit patches;

"I'm not terribly familiar with airsoft but I get the jist of what you're saying. I personally feel deeply honored that someone takes it upon themselves to represent us. I think that many of the opinions you've told me that are out there carry a lot of weight. Someone pretending to be a serving member of the US forces outside of the game setting opens a whole other can of worms it takes the spirit away from what you're doing. That fact that you also represent the 173rd in a Vietnam setting is a great honor, the fact that there are people who acknowledge what we're doing and what we've done, well I can't find anything wrong with that at all."

Now this is one serviceman, in the US Army. But he's not the only one I've spoken to. During research for Vietnam, I've spoken to 3 vets that also had no compunctions about wearing unit patches. 2 of those did have issues with acheivement patches(marksman, combat parachutist etc etc), and I got the feeling that "Jageranimal"(WoW username) had the same sort of apprehensions.

But like the thread says this isn't a debate about the morals of wearing unit patches. I'm going to wear my 173rd patches, because I deeply respect the soldiers and the unit to which I'm putting an impression together from. That being said, I wanna see some more ACU pics of people! I'm just about to put together my OTV Interceptor order and want to see how any of you have laid out your loadout.

Got my OTV Interceptor, so here's the loadout so far;
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._2240950_n.jpg

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._7406635_n.jpg

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._2587570_n.jpg

Do want.
Paint that orange tip!

The Lt. has a black flashhider for me, gonna swap with him.

Nice OTV!

And many more :)

http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd37/Siconhq/

fantastic pics!

Nice but get the grey flag

Whore! ;)

Looks good man, but yeah get an IR flag or Foliage(Grey) Flag for your shoulder guards. And get rid of that insurgent weapon soldier! ;)

It's so true....I can't help myself!

Hello all, nice to meet You
You got really nice sets!

I post my medic style load out

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/984...imensionaa.jpg

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/344...imensionad.jpg

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/794...imensionaq.jpg

the kit list

-ACH/MICH helmet by Gentex, cover by Alabama Industries for the Blind
-Ess-ICE 2.4 goggles
-BDU by Propper
-Desert T-shirt by Rotcho
-Spec Ops desert belt
-Hatch Operator foliage green gloves
-IBA-OTV by Point Blank
-Magazines pouches by Specialty Defense
-Canteen pouch by Aites
-Medic Pouches by Specialty Defense
-Hydratation device by Specialty Defense
-Medic RuckSack kit by Specialty Defense (nothing of medical inside...
only beer, LOL)
-Knee pads by Alta Industries
-Desert boots by Wellco
-ASG by G&P

acs
 

http://i42.tinypic.com/11ucnlg.jpg:

http://i44.tinypic.com/25kn9c9.jpg

Who has two thumbs and is very jealous.... <- This guy! Nice Combat shirt dude

Your kit is tight Fester. Keep up the good work. Just need to get yourself a NVG mount for your helmet.

thanks Shield! Yep I need a NVG mount... need to find one on bebbay


The combat shirt is very nice! I am jalous too...LOL

A few pics in game.
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...r/IMG_6455.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...r/IMG_6489.jpg

Looks good man, very ODA operator!

nice loadouts fester and roughneck. tho you should teach your mate behind you how to use his ironsights and shoulder his weapon.

yea it feels comfortable but it smell like a rotten fish..lol
and also got a new set of ESBI

http://i42.tinypic.com/2i093e1.jpg
i just need an IFAk + ammo pouches

check this out..
https://peosoldier.army.mil/docs/PEO...tfolioFY09.pdf

A couple pics at a game today.
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...S/100_0846.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...S/100_0843.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...S/100_0820.jpg

I will get some pics of me with ma PTW

Some updated pics of my loadout, as always it's a continuing work in progress. These were from the Living History Event at Fort george in Niagara-on-the-Lake.

In the commander's seat of the Abbot.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...q/P1020115.jpg

Modern Display
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...q/P1020117.jpg

Captured Taliban Mortar
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...q/P1020152.jpg

Waiting for the Parade of the Soldier to begin
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...q/P1020247.jpg

Evolution (Featuring Leecas on the left, Staffsgt in the middle and me on the right)
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...q/P1020269.jpg

Here you guys go. An updated pic of me with my ACH and Combat Shirt.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3507/dsc0066p.jpg

here are some pics we took during our lunch break from our last game. 3 of us were rocking the ACU.
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._4894413_n.jpg
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._1467450_n.jpg
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._8137855_n.jpg
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._7542201_n.jpg
in the pic below im just about to say the word "fuck" my gun jammed lol
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._5543655_n.jpg

Good to know how many people play in ACU loadouts. Can't wait to get mine.