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shiftsup January 29th, 2011 15:11

If you compare an airsoft M1 Carbine (Marushin) to an airsoft Sten (AGM / VIVA) you'll notice that you have roughly 3 less inches to work with in regards to the M1 Carbine being fitted with a mechbox. Stens have a much longer receiver than the M1 Carbine. The trigger on a Mk2 Sten is roughly where the stock begins (or ends depending on your point of view) on an M1 Carbine.

If you compare an airsoft M1 Cabine to an airsoft M14 you'll notice that you have at least 3 inches less to work with in regards to the M1 Carbine being fitted with a mechbox. The M1 Carbine magwell is place right after the trigger guard. The M14 magwell is out a bit further. The stock on an M1 Carbine is much narrower and slimmer when compared to an M14.

This has been discussed ad nauseum on asian, american and british ww2 airsoft boards. Yes, some hobbyists have made some M1 Carbine AEG but the results haven't been exactly worthwhile. These have usually invovled modified aep gearboxes if my memory seves me correct.

The KJW 10/22 GBBR and it's M1 Carbine conversion is the most promising option on the horizon IMHO (They gotta do something about the mag)

Back on topic.

I'd very pleasant surprised if ICS made ww2 gas guns. But the AEG's would be more than fine. I am curious if they'll make the Garand top feeding.

WE is supposed to be working on a GBB Sten and Grease Gun.

Edit: forgot the G&G Kar98K

Zeta Lab is working on a B.A.R and a PPSH-41.

Ares is working on an accurate looking M1928 (not those Cyma / KA bastardizations)

I should have a Zeta Lab Mosin Nagant M44 springer shortly. Looking forward to that too.

Eien January 29th, 2011 16:19

It would be interesting on how ICS gonna deal with the battery solution for the M3 Grease gun, if it turns out a AEG. I wanna see hows that gonna turn out :3

Honestly, I would like to see reputable manufacturer taking on the Sten or atleast some British rifles.

shiftsup January 29th, 2011 16:46

Here's a decent Ares M3A1 review: http://ww2airsoft-asia.proboards.com...lay&thread=714

kolumbo69 January 29th, 2011 16:57

From what I know from a few people that were at shot show G&g, Ics were a bust when it came to talking about new products. They couldn't even understand basic english and had no rep. From the little they did get everything ICS was prototype only and had no 2011 release dates.

shiftsup January 29th, 2011 17:13

ICS had a prototype / dummy model M3 grease Gun on their wall really high upat the 2011 Shot Show according to AirsoftOhio members. It's apparently in their 2011 catalogue and according to their rep at the Shot Show it's going to be ready for summer 2011.

When it actually hits retailers is anyone's guess.

I think the rep wasn't so sure about what mag it'll take.

FF to 3:45: YouTube - ICS at 2011 Shot Show

scurvythepirate January 29th, 2011 17:22

He (David) did say that the M3 Grease Gun were going to use M1 Thompson Magazines.
That would defiantly help in getting more magazines for the gun as there are many Thompson magazine manufacturers.

Looking forward to seeing how this all develops.

ruinz00 January 30th, 2011 14:55

I'm not sure I prefer the Ares battery placement or the ICS placement. The Ares is neat, but the ICS is more practical. I can't wait until more info is posted about the M1. That and a KJW 10/22 with the carbine stock would be awesome. The only missing piece is a 1911.
On another note, I love the stock on the MP5 at the beginning.

Andres February 3rd, 2011 00:35

I can't wait any longer for a proper M1928... it's been years! HURRY UP ARES AND PLEASE BE AS V6 COMPATIBLE AS POSSIBLE!

Boyso February 3rd, 2011 07:14

I can feel this year is going to be expensive.

R.I.T.Z February 3rd, 2011 13:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andres (Post 1401574)
I can't wait any longer for a proper M1928... it's been years! HURRY UP ARES AND PLEASE BE AS V6 COMPATIBLE AS POSSIBLE!

umm wrong thread... this is about the grease gun and m1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boyso (Post 1401624)
I can feel this year is going to be expensive.

oh god yes.... tax refund is going to disapear

Padkiller February 3rd, 2011 14:03

Who's gonnabe poor this year.......meh !
The ICS M1, I want it !
But KWA's recoil Ak AEG series, shown at the shot show will ruin me !

shiftsup February 3rd, 2011 14:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruinz00 (Post 1398786)
I'm not sure I prefer the Ares battery placement or the ICS placement. The Ares is neat, but the ICS is more practical.

Just for historical accuracy....

The Ares version of the Grease Gun is an M3A1. This version did not see any war time service in the ETO. It was issued during the post war occupation period in the ETO.

The ICS version is supposed to be an M3 version (with the cocking handle) which was used in the MED and ETO during WW2.

As far as the Pacific theatre is concerned, very few M3A1's were issued late in the war to GI's.

There are plenty of period photos of GI's with cocking handle removed M3's. All that is left is a dime size hole in the lower receiver where the cocking handle was located. (I might have to drill a hole in my M3A1 lower receiver)

So if you have a huge hard on for WW2 correct grease gun it might be wise to wait for the ICS version.

The M3A1 is accurate for Korean Conflict, Vietnam War, Gulf War etc.

ex February 3rd, 2011 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiftsup (Post 1401812)
Just for historical accuracy....

The Ares version of the Grease Gun is an M3A1. This version did not see any war time service in the ETO. It was issued during the post war occupation period in the ETO.

The ICS version is supposed to be an M3 version (with the cocking handle) which was used in the MED and ETO during WW2.

As far as the Pacific theatre is concerned, very few M3A1's were issued late in the war to GI's.

There are plenty of period photos of GI's with cocking handle removed M3's. All that is left is a dime size hole in the lower receiver where the cocking handle was located. (I might have to drill a hole in my M3A1 lower receiver)

...and the M3a1 was used by US Tank crews up until and including the Gulf War.

Boyso February 3rd, 2011 15:24

I can't wait for a M1 Carbine Para, but a M1 Garand would probably be more appropriate with most loadouts.

Plus, it was designed here :D

Graham February 3rd, 2011 16:00

Bummer, I was hoping I'd view this thread an find news of a carbine aeg :(


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